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What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [vad1819] by chuckhoy
Feb 19, 2008 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: vad1819 (Feb 19, 2008 11:39 am)

For us it came down to the old FS and the Outlook. My wife did not like the CX-9 at all.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [ateixeira] by albook
Feb 19, 2008 (3:37 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 19, 2008 10:29 am)

Gotta love how clones Edge (8th place) and MKX (20th place) are so far apart. Price means something, sure, but that alone can't explain why one does well and the other bombs badly.
 
That's easy. They are for different markets. You can't say the MKX is better than the Murano- they don't compete. The MKX is more expensive, and since it's luxury it should be nicer. How would the MKX rate in comparison to an MDX (obviously not well).
 
Though you gotta wonder, what makes them think they're qualified to rate automobiles in the first place?
 
If CR can do it (and according to all their diehard fans they can) than PM is qaulified to.
 
It's little more than advertisment. If you're loooking for a car, don't just go off of them. Before doing YOUR OWN assessment, read MT or C&D and then go to edmunds.com. I think we can all agree these sources are a bit more reliable and experienced in this field.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [chuckhoy] by albook
Feb 19, 2008 (3:46 pm)
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Replying to: chuckhoy (Feb 19, 2008 11:42 am)

If I was in the market, it would come down to:
The Acadia/Enclave, the TX and the CX-9 because we need the space, and the MDX because we like it. I also like the Q7, but it wouldn't make the cut bacause it doesn't handle great. The TX would get cut out because I don't like the new look of the TX, and I want some ground clearance. I'm not a fan of the CX-9's looks either (if I wanted sporty, I'd rather have the MDX). For the sake of functionality and space, the MDX would probably get cut too, if I decided I really wasn't willing to give up the space. That would leave the lambda twins.
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Canadian International Auto Show by hoser0eh
Feb 19, 2008 (7:15 pm)
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My wife and I went to the Auto Show in Toronto this weekend. What a great show! Lots of exotic cars: 16 Lamborghinis on display, a Rolls, a Maybach, a Maserati, Ferrari, a Mercedes McLaren SLR Roadster etc.
Some nice crossover concepts and near production models too:Ford Flex, Ford Airstream, Volvo XC60, My wife hated both Fords, and loved the XC60. I liked both the Flex and the XC60.
It was nice to see the new Chevy Traverse up close. It looks really nice (in my opinion). It is more similar to the Enclave than I expected, but I don't think that you would confuse the two. It also shares some looks with the Acura MDX and Mazda CX-9. And with the new DI 3.6L engine, it offers improved horsepower numbers (288). If it is less money than its' Lambda siblings, it looks like a winner to me.
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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [hoser0eh] by nxs138
Feb 20, 2008 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: hoser0eh (Feb 19, 2008 7:15 pm)

As far as GM goes, I'm a Chevrolet guy myself. If the Traverse would have come out now, I would have picked it over the rest of the Lambdas in a second. More horsepower and (presumably) none of that weird transmission quirkiness is exactly what these Lambdas need. And the wife likes the looks of the Traverse, as opposed to the Acadia which is too chunky for her.
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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [nxs138] by hoser0eh
Feb 20, 2008 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: nxs138 (Feb 20, 2008 6:54 am)

As far as GM goes, I'm a Chevrolet guy myself. If the Traverse would have come out now, I would have picked it over the rest of the Lambdas in a second. More horsepower and (presumably) none of that weird transmission quirkiness is exactly what these Lambdas need. And the wife likes the looks of the Traverse, as opposed to the Acadia which is too chunky for her.
 
Our current van lease is a Chevy Venture. 110K and no problems. It goes back in a week and we start driving the Enclave. We couldn't wait for the Traverse to be produced, but I know my wife preferred the looks and quietness of the Enclave anyway.
We only ever had two other Chevys; a 2000 Cavalier that my daughter still drives that has had no problems except for some dash lights that burned out and the heater fan that no longer works on the slowest speed (195K); and a 1986 Suburban that was great for pulling a 24 foot camping trailer (don't remember any problems).
 
In fact we've never had any serious problems with any domestic vehicles we have owned. The most problematic vehicles we have owned are; 1975 Datsun 610 wagon (our first vehicle, and one that my wife couldn't wait to get rid of), and a 1994 Honda Accord which had numerous problems (probably not the Accord's fault; it was in 5 accidents; none were our fault; it was just a magnet for other cars to hit for some reason).
In Honda's defense, we currently drive a 2005 Civic as a runabout vehicle, and it has been great. And I would have probably bought an Odyssey, if my wife would have been willing to drive another van.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [albook] by ateixeira
Feb 20, 2008 (8:33 am)
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Replying to: albook (Feb 19, 2008 3:37 pm)

Good point about their being better sources, and I'd go as far as even agreeing with the ones you suggest (C&D, Edmunds, and I'll add Autoweek).
 
I wouldn't call myself a fan of CR, but they are useful because they measure a lot of things that noone else does (payload, towing, turning radius, cargo box dimensions, etc.). So taken FWIW, I find them useful.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [ateixeira] by dbt
Feb 20, 2008 (11:32 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 19, 2008 10:29 am)

"Though you gotta wonder, what makes them think they're qualified to rate automobiles in the first place?"
 
This is another of USNews' great ideas: cull reviews from magazines / newspapers / whereever, and combine them into a single cardinal ranking. Just like they do for college / law school rankings. It's not them doing the rating, it's others. They're just putting it all together under some secret-special-sauce-weighting system.
 
And if you think this particular ranking is controversial, google U.S. News law school rankings controversy ...
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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [hoser0eh] by bobw3
Feb 20, 2008 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: hoser0eh (Feb 19, 2008 7:15 pm)

What did you think of the Flex?
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Re: Canadian International Auto Show [bobw3] by baggs32
Feb 20, 2008 (2:14 pm)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Feb 20, 2008 12:08 pm)

What did you think of the Flex?
 
Yeah, and could you actually open the doors and get in one hoser0eh?

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