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7122 messages,  Last post on Nov 09, 2009 at 1:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: A little advice... [albook] by aviboy97
Feb 18, 2008 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: albook (Feb 17, 2008 6:15 pm)

A better thing to say would be that CX-7 is receiving the sales numbers Mazda targeted. Because these may be the numbers Mazda wants, but in comparison to what other competitors are selling, these numbers are very small.
 
That's correct. In this world, you need to concentrate on what you need to do to succeed, and not worry about what your competition is doing. Since Mazda does not have the capabilities produce units like Honda / Toyota / Nissan / Ford / GM, they are best suited to stick to their guns, and steadily grow as a company. Which is what they are doing and doing well.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [albook] by chuckhoy
Feb 18, 2008 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: albook (Feb 17, 2008 6:32 pm)

When we were looking at minivans/CUVs a few months ago I used styling as a criteria. There were so many good offerings out there it was tough to narrow the field to a few to concentrate on, so styling was used to get rid of the ones we thought were ugly. That is how the CX-9 got dumped. My wife hated how it looked and thought it was too small.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [steve_] by albook
Feb 18, 2008 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Feb 17, 2008 7:02 pm)

I don't see any resemblance.
 
I see it. That's a comment I made when I first saw it. The headlights and grille, along with the downward sloping hood make it look like the last gen. Town and Country, as someone else mentioned.
 
In other news, someone in a Frontier flipped their rig right in the middle of the two lane as we were heading down after lunch. Guess there's a bit of black ice out there.
 
The weather's been bad lately. I guess this is one of the perks of having a CUV/ vehicle with all wheel drive.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [steve_] by freealfas
Feb 18, 2008 (9:37 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Feb 17, 2008 7:02 pm)

"I don't see any resemblance. "
 
you're right, that's because there is none...
 
"Guess there's a bit of black ice out there."
 
considering the thaw with above freezing weather yesterday here, I doubt black ice was a factor in an SUV rolling over.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [freealfas] by steve_ HOST
Feb 18, 2008 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: freealfas (Feb 18, 2008 9:37 am)

I had to spend some "quality" time with the ski patrol this morning and none of them could figure out how the pickup wound up upside down in the middle of the road like it did.
 
I guess I'll have to pay more attention to the Tribeca/Caravan looks. It was a newer Tribeca without that nose, but I'm fixated on the good old days when I had a boxy Voyager.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [steve_] by albook
Feb 18, 2008 (2:46 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Feb 18, 2008 2:20 pm)

but I'm fixated on the good old days when I had a boxy Voyager.
 
Back in the days when the minivan was "cool".
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [steve_] by freealfas
Feb 18, 2008 (3:28 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Feb 18, 2008 2:20 pm)

a shot in the dark, chalk it up to an evasive maneuver gone bad resulting in the demonstrated downside of a raised center of gravity due to it's suv proportions and ride height.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [freealfas] by nxs138
Feb 18, 2008 (4:53 pm)
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Replying to: freealfas (Feb 18, 2008 3:28 pm)

Shouldn't that thing have had roll-over protection? I thought it was pretty much standard on these new crossovers. Doesn't mean it'll work in all conditions, but if it's as good as stability protection, it should really help stop the car from tipping over in emergency avoidance situations.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [nxs138] by freealfas
Feb 18, 2008 (5:20 pm)
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Replying to: nxs138 (Feb 18, 2008 4:53 pm)

a frontier is a SUV not a CUV by the working definitions that float around here. as for the ESP if it had it is not the end all be all in roll over avoidance. physics at some point always wins regarless of all the bells and whistles and marketing that is shown to the public.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [freealfas] by thegraduate
Feb 18, 2008 (5:38 pm)
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Replying to: freealfas (Feb 18, 2008 5:20 pm)

a frontier is a SUV not a CUV by the working definitions that float around here.
 
Um, it's a Pickup Truck.
 

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