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What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [albook] by jimmy2x
Feb 17, 2008 (12:17 pm)
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Replying to: albook (Feb 17, 2008 11:06 am)

I totally agree. And while I think you should have more criteria than looks, if you don't like the way you're vehicle looks, then you're doing nothing but making a huge monthly payment. Mine in this case is the Subaru Tribeca. It could get 30 mpg and have more the most room inside, and best handling of any vehicle on this froum, but I would still never get near one with my checkbook.
 
Have to agree with you about the Tribeca - to my eyes it is very generic on the exterior and has a weird looking interior.
 
I didm't mean to imply the the look was the only factor, but like the Cadillac commercial, it has to turn me on (at least to a degree). Maybe that is why I never bought a Volvo .
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [hoser0eh] by joe97
Feb 17, 2008 (2:30 pm)
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Replying to: hoser0eh (Feb 17, 2008 7:39 am)

US News?
 
Honda Pilot #1?
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [hoser0eh] by freealfas
Feb 17, 2008 (5:12 pm)
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Replying to: hoser0eh (Feb 17, 2008 7:39 am)

proves the point you can find someone to say anything...
 
isuzu, I guess they didn't get the memo that isuzu sold, maybe 6 vehicles here last year and aren't coming back.
 
that's as pointless a review if there ever was one.
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Re: A little advice... [albook] by aviboy97
Feb 17, 2008 (5:23 pm)
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Replying to: albook (Feb 17, 2008 10:08 am)

Okay, but what are the numbers of the CX-7 compared to a competitor like the Murano or Edge?
 
The CX-7 sells no where near the numbers of the Murano or Edge. As a matter of fact, Mazda sells a fraction of the vehicles that either Ford or Nissan sells. Mazda is the 4th largest auto manufacturer from Japan. They are a pretty small company.
 
Take this into account. Mazda never had a vehicle in that class before, so, with 41,600 sales in 2007, I'm pretty sure there were a lot of previous Ford and Nissan customers that now own Mazda. In fact, 80% of people stepping foot into a Mazda dealership have never even test driven a Mazda before, and close to 90% have never owned a Mazda before. So, with the sale numbers of the CX-7, it's safe to say that 37,440 CX-7 owners were driving another brand before hand. I bet there are a lot of previous Ford and Nissan owners in there. That is a more telling story.
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Re: A little advice... [aviboy97] by albook
Feb 17, 2008 (6:15 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Feb 17, 2008 5:23 pm)

The CX-7 sells no where near the numbers of the Murano or Edge. As a matter of fact, Mazda sells a fraction of the vehicles that either Ford or Nissan sells. Mazda is the 4th largest auto manufacturer from Japan. They are a pretty small company.
 
So the point is it's all about relativety. A better thing to say would be that CX-7 is recieving the sales numbers Mazda targeted. Because these may be the numbers Mazda wants, but incomparison to what other competitors are selling, these numbers are very small.
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Chicago Autoshow by albook
Feb 17, 2008 (6:15 pm)
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Finally went to the Chicago Auto yesterday.
 
My thoughts: It was a pretty good show. All of the automakers had something.
 
In the CUV category-
The Chevy Traverse definitely looks better in person. At first I needed some warming up to it (though there were some aspects I did like) after seeing it, the styling is nice, and compliments Chevy nicely.
The Pilot looks so much better in person. I'm not saying it looks great, but the exterior styling is okay. If you're set on buying a Honda (like all those die hard Toyonda fans out there) you're not even looking at styling.
The Dodge Journey still bores me. Styling aside, it's a good move for Chrysler (and they ned all the good moves they can get). But If I needed something that size, I'd go get a Veracruz- maybe even a Pilot.
The Toyota Venza? It looks decently good, but Toyota's not fooling anybody. That's nothing but a Camry wagon. And like Ford, they changed the name because they know the wagon is "uncool" . It will still sell great.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [hoser0eh] by albook
Feb 17, 2008 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: hoser0eh (Feb 17, 2008 7:39 am)

Honda Pilot number one? Someone has been smoking.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [jimmy2x] by albook
Feb 17, 2008 (6:32 pm)
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Replying to: jimmy2x (Feb 17, 2008 12:17 pm)

Have to agree with you about the Tribeca - to my eyes it is very generic on the exterior and has a weird looking interior.
 
To me, it's like they tried to bland the front up, but it still retains it's awkward shape.
 
I didm't mean to imply the the look was the only factor, but like the Cadillac commercial, it has to turn me on (at least to a degree). Maybe that is why I never bought a Volvo
 
Oh I understand. I really think styling has a place on everyone's list, whether they will admit it or not. I've heard even the most conservative functionality based posters on this board say something about a style that they like or didn't like.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [albook] by steve_ HOST
Feb 17, 2008 (7:02 pm)
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Replying to: albook (Feb 17, 2008 6:32 pm)

Walking to the lifts through the parking lot this morning I overheard someone ask their friend what that was parked across from them - a Caravan?
 
It was a Tribeca.
 
I don't see any resemblance.
 
In other news, someone in a Frontier flipped their rig right in the middle of the two lane as we were heading down after lunch. Guess there's a bit of black ice out there.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [steve_] by baggs32
Feb 18, 2008 (6:39 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Feb 17, 2008 7:02 pm)

Walking to the lifts through the parking lot this morning I overheard someone ask their friend what that was parked across from them - a Caravan?
  
It was a Tribeca.
  
I don't see any resemblance.

 
I can see some resemblance to the last gen Town & Country actually. From certain angles anyway. The big difference in size is enough to make me not think the Tribeca is a minivan though.
 
Personally I think the new Tribeca is pretty decent looking. It's not exciting or drop dead gorgeous, but it's likeable IMO. Definietly better than their first effort. My neighbor has one of those and it amazes me how ugly it is every time I see it. You just have to stare at it sometimes.

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