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What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Saturn VUE, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: A little advice... [chuckhoy] by ateixeira
Feb 15, 2008 (12:46 pm)
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Replying to: chuckhoy (Feb 15, 2008 12:28 pm)

That's harder to do than it sounds, but I suppose the hosts can try.
 
I think if a manufacturer has more than one crossover, perhaps only the largest belongs here.
 
Even then you have a gray area, though. Look at Mitsubishi. Do we include the Endeavor? It's bigger than the Outlander. Yet the smaller one offers the (tiny) 3rd row. It may not matter as noone ever brings up the Endeavor anyway.
 
The Ford Edge and Saturn Vue have curb weights that make them seem like heavy weights, but they're not full-sized and don't have a 3rd row.
 
Ford gets even cloudier when consider that they'll have 4 of these.
 
It does seem like there is room for 2 discussions, though.
 
I suggest using this other thread, which already compares small crossovers/SUVs, as the "Small Crossover Comparison" thread:
 
dogteam1, "Suzuki Grand Vitara vs Subaru Forester vs Hyundai Santa Fe vs Jeep Liberty vs Ford Escape vs Saturn Vue" #4882, 9 Dec 2007 6:05 pm
 
6 vehicles are listed in the title, but if we can have up to 9, perhaps we add the CR-V, RAV4, and Outlander, so that it gets more traffic.
 
This one here could then be "Large Crossover Comparison".
 
The lesson here is it is hard to categorize vehicles in a category that was created specifically because they do not fit into traditional categories!
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Re: A little advice... [ateixeira] by ateixeira
Feb 15, 2008 (12:47 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 15, 2008 12:46 pm)

On 2nd thought, maybe we do need an entirely new thread for the small ones.
 
The Liberty isn't really a crossover. Nor is the Grand Vitara, IMHO.
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Re: A little advice... [volkov] by vad1819
Feb 15, 2008 (3:00 pm)
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Replying to: volkov (Feb 15, 2008 12:24 pm)

Why do you so disgruntle?
"I've only ever owned 1 vehicle that did have a problem before 3K. It was a GM"
So, GM is producing good quality cars. I will give you personal update each 1000 miles. May be your TX is not doing as well?
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Re: A little advice... [vad1819] by freealfas
Feb 15, 2008 (3:27 pm)
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Replying to: vad1819 (Feb 15, 2008 3:00 pm)

30k with the '05 FS and no problems short of the rear pads they replaced, any VC, CX, etc. owner's out there willing to chime in for the cuv problem update-fest...
 
This just in, wife just went to the store, 15miles, no problems... carry on...lol
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Re: A little advice... [vad1819] by volkov
Feb 15, 2008 (3:52 pm)
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Replying to: vad1819 (Feb 15, 2008 3:00 pm)

Why do you so disgruntle?
I'm not really - we replaced our first GMC with another GMC last Summer. We are simply realistic about its reliability.
"I've only ever owned 1 vehicle that did have a problem before 3K. It was a GM"
So, GM is producing good quality cars.

That makes no sense, I'm sorry. If your point is that GM makes quality vehicles because your Acadia has lasted 3K miles, then you have no idea what reliability means. I can see the ad copy now. "We have documented proof that one of our new vehicles went 3000 miles without any problem. That's GM reliability!!"
 
I will give you personal update each 1000 miles.
Please don't.
 
BTW we haven't bought anything yet.
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Re: A little advice... [volkov] by cjsb
Feb 15, 2008 (5:22 pm)
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Replying to: volkov (Feb 15, 2008 3:52 pm)

I'm not often on page with vad but in fairness to him...
 
By the way after the putting more that 3,000 miles on Acadia I love it. I have not any problem whatsoever.
 
...was what he said. I don't interpret that as meaning the 3000 miles sans problems was an "accomplishment". Just more that he continues to be happy with his choice and this far in, no problems to report.
 
On another note...I've had enough fun with the new AWD...it can stop snowing around my way any time now. Though it does look nice!
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Popular Mechanics Comparison by hoser0eh
Feb 15, 2008 (8:58 pm)
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Here's a link to a crossover comparison from Popular Mechanics.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4220226.html
 
 The primary factor they were looking for was:
 "real-world practicality. We loaded coolers, beach chairs and baby seats and spent hours riding in third-row seats. We braved parking garages, mountain roads and urban jungles, all in addition to running our normal test regimen."
 
And the six vehicles tested were ranked as follows:
 
1. Mazda CX-9
2. Hyundai Veracruz
3. Saturn Outlook
4. Toyota Highlander
5. Subaru Tribeca
6. Honda Pilot
 
As can be expected, there isn't a bad vehicle out there. Just different vehicles. They all had their good points.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [hoser0eh] by vad1819
Feb 15, 2008 (10:13 pm)
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Replying to: hoser0eh (Feb 15, 2008 8:58 pm)

I don't understand why do they choose a VC over Saturn? The cooler don't fit behind third row seat.
The acceleration, how we do know same.
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [vad1819] by freealfas
Feb 15, 2008 (10:33 pm)
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Replying to: vad1819 (Feb 15, 2008 10:13 pm)

tribeca should win on braking alone, it's in a league of it's own there... reading the stats it should be the winner. amazing what 700 less lbs can do to make a vehicle 26' safer in an emergency stop. I know what I'd pick of that group, surprisingly...
 
I'd also argue the lat. G numbers were incorrectly reported on the tribeca as its lane change is 4mph faster than the CX. combine that with it's better looks than the CX, wow, not that PM is a place to read reviews but they missed the boat big time with that order of finish.
 
and yeah, I just said that...
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Re: Popular Mechanics Comparison [freealfas] by aviboy97
Feb 16, 2008 (7:07 am)
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Replying to: freealfas (Feb 15, 2008 10:33 pm)

Did I hear you correctly ...the Tribeca look better then the CX-9? Just curious....

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