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#5399 of 7326 Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [vad1819]
by volkov
Jan 31, 2008 (1:11 pm)
Hyundai or Kia are designed cars look like they 10 years behind. The leather or interior can look great, but is it durable?
We are all know car makers like BMW, GM, Ford, Mercedes make their car forever
Durable GM leather?. Our 2000 Yukon XL had splits in both leather front seats within 4 years. I was shocked at how thin the leather was. DW and I are not big either! As to the rest? All the snap on plastic trim around the seat rails were busted off in 2 years. Rear window defroster never worked reliably after one year. ABS motor in the 2000 and the 2004 went after 3 years (just long enough to be beyond warranty) The vehicle is the only one which truly fits our needs for utility,space and towing capacity - that's why we bought them. A neighbour loves their Acadia and I looked at the Buick, but DW has vetoed the Lamdas due to our experience with GM reliability.
You knock KIA and Hyundai as if there's a scientifically proven advantage to owning a GM. Evidence is simply not there to support that assertion.
As to the others - the folks I know who drive Bimmers? All have/had issues with them becoming expensive repair shop Princesses by the age of 5. The actual engine and the leather lasts, no doubt, but there's a lot more to today's cars than that.
#5400 of 7326 Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [vad1819]
by ateixeira
Jan 31, 2008 (1:29 pm)
All I can say is to go sit in a Hyundai Azera or Veracruz, if you are open-minded enough, and you'll be surprised.
#5401 of 7326 Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [volkov]
by vad1819
Jan 31, 2008 (1:31 pm)
it's interesting place here. Everyone likes everything I don't like. So, Q for all of you:
What do u prefer more between CX-9,TX and Veracruz? So make up your mind.
By the way for almost 5 month of owning the Acadia, I have zero problems. So don't tell me about GM reliability again. It's full of ............
I don't beleive in some issues the owner had. You can say about any car had problems.( veracruz has cases of leaks inside) But numbers don't lie, the Acadia most saalling CUV in 7 pass class.
#5402 of 7326 Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [vad1819]
by ateixeira
Jan 31, 2008 (1:36 pm)
Each of the 3 has its appeal.
The Taurus X is likely the most practical. It's well priced after discounts, and has great visibility.
The CX9 is easy - it's the sportiest of the 3 by far. It would be my personal choice among the 3, but my wife might choose differently. Oddly enough it lacks comfort IMHO, the console rubs my right knee the wrong way and the heated seats need more settings that hold certain temperatures. It could also use a brighter NAV screen.
The Veracruz has the most comfortable seats, and the best leather I've sampled in the entire segment. Fit for a King, to be on his throne. It's also well priced after discounts.
#5403 of 7326 Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [vad1819]
by thegraduate
Jan 31, 2008 (1:49 pm)
Pontiac was and will produce good sedans.
We'll have to disagree there. The Grand-Am, the Sunbird/Sunfire... garbage as far as I'm concerned.
Back tot he topic at hand.
#5404 of 7326 Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [ateixeira]
by vad1819
Jan 31, 2008 (1:49 pm)
"The Veracruz has the most comfortable seats, and the best leather I've sampled in the entire segment. Fit for a King, to be on his throne. It's also well priced after discounts."
I have read different opinion, that you can't find more comfortable position and low visibility. In the end it's Hyundai. Crapy third row seat. Underpower.
Same about Mazda. Good design and sporty but low visibility, rear parking unreal difficult. Crapy third row seat.
TX is old design. DVD drop down sreen block rear view.
#5405 of 7326 Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [vad1819]
by thegraduate
Jan 31, 2008 (1:58 pm)
In the end it's Hyundai.
And?
#5406 of 7326 Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [vad1819]
by mpuzach
Jan 31, 2008 (1:58 pm)
It seems to me that you've decided that there's something wrong with everything out there except your beloved Acadia (which, by the way, is a pretty nice SUV). I suggest, however, that you base your opinions on first-hand experience rather than on what you read (at least with regard to comfort and visibility). I've looked very closely at the Veracruz and can assure you that its seats are very comfortable (to me, at least). I also didn't have a problem with visibility.
As to your comment, "In the end it's a Hyundai", I suggest that you consider the car on its own merits and not on the reputation of cars that were built 20 years ago. They've come a long way since then.
#5407 of 7326 Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [mpuzach]
by thegraduate
Jan 31, 2008 (2:00 pm)
As to your comment, "In the end it's a Hyundai", I suggest that you consider the car on its own merits and not on the reputation of cars that were built 20 years ago. They've come a long way since then.
Indeed. If one can look past GM's dark days (and there were plenty), they can overlook Hyundai's dark days as well. Well, I hope.
#5408 of 7326 Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [vad1819]
by ateixeira
Jan 31, 2008 (2:15 pm)
Remember something - the predecessor to the Acadia was the Saturn Relay/Buick Terraza/Chevy Uplander.
That didn't exactly get rants and raves.
Would it be fair for someone who owned a Relay to have a bias against Saturn, and dismiss the Acadia/Outlook?
That's not fair, the Outlook is a huge improvement over the older, simply uncompetitive Relay. You gave GM another chance.
To not give Hyundai that chance just shows a bias.