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What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [thegraduate] by vad1819
Jan 31, 2008 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 31, 2008 8:41 am)

"I wouldn't bet money that a Hyundai couldn't last as long as a GMC/Chevy/Ford. In fact, I'd probably bet the other way around. A decade ago is a decade ago. Today is today. Hyundai is building reliable, competitive vehicles. Thankfully, GM/Ford seem to finally "get it" and are doing the same thing."
 
How many used Hyundai or kia you see on road? Not as many as Toyota, Ford, GM, BMW, Honda.
If you have money ($30-35K), have you buy one? or what have you buy?
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Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [vad1819] by thegraduate
Jan 31, 2008 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: vad1819 (Jan 31, 2008 9:13 am)

How many used Hyundai or kia you see on road? Not as many as Toyota, Ford, GM, BMW, Honda.
 
Hyundai has been selling large numbers for a lot less time than GM, Honda, etc, so the question is pointless. If you want to look at the past, you better include GM in there too buddy boy - they were crap for the most part in the mid-90s and earlier.
 
If you have money ($30-35K), have you buy one?
 
I wouldn't spend that much on a car period. They're all depreciating assets. I'd look seriously at a Sonata; I did 2 years ago. I didn't care for the interior design, but found no drastic flaws in the vehicle itself. I liked the Accord's interior, and chose it.
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Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [thegraduate] by vad1819
Jan 31, 2008 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 31, 2008 10:47 am)

"I wouldn't spend that much on a car period."
 So why do you give people advice to buy Hyundai? It's easy to spend the money is not belong to you.
 
I have friend who bought Sonata, then couple years later he had so kind different a problems, he hated it. It was good for less two years. Almost same story about Kia.
I tell you if I have 22-30K for sedan I'll buy brand new VW passat or used Volvo.
From CUV 30-35K. I'll still buy a Acadia, or CX-9, or used Volvo.
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Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [vad1819] by mpuzach
Jan 31, 2008 (11:08 am)
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Replying to: vad1819 (Jan 31, 2008 9:13 am)

"If you have money ($30-35K), have you buy one? or what have you buy?"
 
When I decided to buy a small or mid-sized SUV last year to replace a company-owned Volvo XC90 AWD (after I left that job), I considered everything on the market for $35,000 or less. I looked at and test drove the Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited, Chevy Equinox and Tahoe, GMC Acadia, Honda CR-V, Dodge Nitro, Mitsubishi Outlander, Toyota Highlander, Mazda CX-7, and many others. I bought a brand new, fresh off the truck Hyundai Santa Fe Limited AWD and couldn't be happier with it. I've owned it for nearly 9 months now and have driven it roughly 7000 miles with ZERO problems. This Hyundai has absolutely nothing to be ashamed of.
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Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [thegraduate] by vad1819
Jan 31, 2008 (11:11 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 31, 2008 10:47 am)

"you better include GM in there too buddy boy - they were crap for the most part in the mid-90s and earlier".
 
Pontiac was and will produce good sedans.I can agree with chevy, but not all the Caprice, Corvette and Impala for most part was good cars. GEO, yea it is.
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Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [mpuzach] by vad1819
Jan 31, 2008 (11:15 am)
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Replying to: mpuzach (Jan 31, 2008 11:08 am)

But how do you feel in driving wise after Volvo?
I think Edge, Murano, Tribeca or 08' Vue better choice than a Santa Fe.
I choice the car is not just reliability, but also driving experience.
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Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [vad1819] by freealfas
Jan 31, 2008 (11:25 am)
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Replying to: vad1819 (Jan 31, 2008 11:05 am)

we know what you'd buy already...
 
that still does not mean your attempts to communicate what is YOUR logic don't appear to be flawed. and no I'm not criticizing your grammar in any way shape or form.
 
as far as your friend goes, I imagine you could make another friend who drives said same ride who is still driving it 100k + miles later.
 
I can go find people who can say the same things about their acadia who have had them for less than a year if you want. does it really mean anything, not necessarily. you simply take your chances being as diligent about making a decision you can at the time. the rest is simply noise veiled as something claiming to be important to make you feel better about your decision.
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Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [freealfas] by vad1819
Jan 31, 2008 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: freealfas (Jan 31, 2008 11:25 am)

I can agree.
But the buying a car it's investing a lot money to unappreciated product. It's your money and you can spend them whereever you're wanted.
I think Korean car makers far from the make good cars. They made better appearance, but not better car. It's still feeling cheap inside and outside for $30K.
why do you think people paying more then $50k for BMW sedan. Is it better car then Honda? I'm sure better car inside and outside, it has something that other car doesn't. That something hyundai is missing, compare to even to GM cars.
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Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [vad1819] by mpuzach
Jan 31, 2008 (12:05 pm)
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Replying to: vad1819 (Jan 31, 2008 11:44 am)

I think we get your point - you don't like Hyundais. The truth is that many of us here (myself included) do like them. Nothing you say is going to change that as I speak from firsthand experience as an owner. Regarding your earlier question, yes, I liked my XC90 very much. Who wouldn't? Volvo builds beautiful cars of high quality. It also cost over $45,000. I paid $27,000 for my Santa Fe Limited AWD. The only significant things it lacks that my XC90 had are navigation (not available in 2007; I remedied that with a $500 Garmin unit) and xenon headlights. I was pleasantly surprised to find that the Santa Fe has features like an auto-dimming inside mirror (with compass), HomeLink, MP3 disc playback, XM radio (standard), 18" wheels (Volvo had 17s), upper dash-mounted storage bin, under-floor rear storage compartment, illuminated vanity mirrors, front visor extensions, and illuminated steering wheel buttons for the stereo and cruise control.
 
Had I been in the market for a $45,000 SUV I would have definitely considered the XC90. For only $27,000, though, I got very close with my Santa Fe. It's a great SUV.
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Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [vad1819] by volkov
Jan 31, 2008 (12:11 pm)
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Replying to: vad1819 (Jan 31, 2008 8:31 am)

Hyundai or Kia are designed cars look like they 10 years behind. The leather or interior can look great, but is it durable?
We are all know car makers like BMW, GM, Ford, Mercedes make their car forever

 
Durable GM leather?. Our 2000 Yukon XL had splits in both leather front seats within 4 years. I was shocked at how thin the leather was. DW and I are not big either! As to the rest? All the snap on plastic trim around the seat rails were busted off in 2 years. Rear window defroster never worked reliably after one year. ABS motor in the 2000 and the 2004 went after 3 years (just long enough to be beyond warranty) The vehicle is the only one which truly fits our needs for utility,space and towing capacity - that's why we bought them. A neighbour loves their Acadia and I looked at the Buick, but DW has vetoed the Lamdas due to our experience with GM reliability.
You knock KIA and Hyundai as if there's a scientifically proven advantage to owning a GM. Evidence is simply not there to support that assertion.
 As to the others - the folks I know who drive Bimmers? All have/had issues with them becoming expensive repair shop Princesses by the age of 5. The actual engine and the leather lasts, no doubt, but there's a lot more to today's cars than that.

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