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What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [vad1819] by brooch
Jan 30, 2008 (3:44 pm)
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Replying to: vad1819 (Jan 30, 2008 3:11 pm)

Man, your grammar sucks, can barely understand what u are trying to say. I on the other hand have had a great experience with my Hyundai.
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Re: they won't be dealing on an enclave anytime soon... [albook] by freealfas
Jan 30, 2008 (6:55 pm)
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Replying to: albook (Jan 30, 2008 2:06 pm)

let's paint this a little more accurately;
 
now all they have to do is re-engineer it to get the weight out of it and come up a more efficient powerplant to take into account the new cafe regs. if they would have put it on a diet in the first place that would one less task on the list of things to do to stay competitive and conform to evolving regulations that they all seemed to think would never get here with all of their lobbying, whining and such.
 
so call it hits on some fronts and falling squarely on their face in others.
 
that's also not to say the others aren't faced with the same tasks ahead just to varying degrees.
 
looking forward to the chicago auto show to finally sit in some to see what all the hype is about around here for all of them.
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Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [vad1819] by freealfas
Jan 30, 2008 (7:04 pm)
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Replying to: vad1819 (Jan 30, 2008 3:11 pm)

to equate the elantra to ANYTHING that hyundai has on the dealer showroom floor in 2008 is just plain silly.
 
let's think about this I got to rent a few J body & geo gm cars here and there and you can't tell me they were much better than an elantra. does that have any bearing on the lambda's of today that you so admire, NO.
 
not that I'm running out to buy one but they all have their strengths/weakness' and you simply can't apply that false logic to any of the CUV manufaturer's at this point in this day/age.
 
escorts, glc's, corolla's, civics, j bodies, rabbits, they all blew to varying degree's. rust, poor fit, finish, lousy materials, the list can be made for each.
 
try again Vad.
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Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [freealfas] by thegraduate
Jan 30, 2008 (9:33 pm)
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Replying to: freealfas (Jan 30, 2008 7:04 pm)

try again Vad.
 
Or not, that'd be ok too. An experience with a compact car from one company has nothing to do with that same company's new Crossover. The Saturn Ion is a piece of Crapola as far as I'm concerned, but it doesn't mean the Outlook will be.
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Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [thegraduate] by freealfas
Jan 30, 2008 (9:34 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 30, 2008 9:33 pm)

noted...
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Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [brooch] by tidester HOST
Jan 31, 2008 (2:27 am)
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Replying to: brooch (Jan 30, 2008 3:44 pm)

Man, your grammar sucks …
 
Let's cut some slack. Our international members typically speak English far better than we can speak their languages. I give Vad an A+ for effort!
 
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Sad Story by vad1819
Jan 31, 2008 (6:26 am)
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Off topic:
http://www.ocala.com/assets/slideshow/greystone/index.html
 
Do not let the kids drive a muscle cars.
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Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [thegraduate] by ateixeira
Jan 31, 2008 (7:43 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 30, 2008 9:33 pm)

An experience with a compact car from one company has nothing to do with that same company's new Crossover
 
Well said, in fact the leather in the Veracruz puts the leather in Hyundai's own Entourage to shame. Much higher grade of materials.
 
They are not the same at all, that is the whole point.
 
The Azera was a good start, the Veracruz took it one step further, and pretty soon you may sit in a Genesis and simply refuse the believe this is from the same company that used to make the 1986 Excel.
 
The new Sonata and Santa Fe and a definite step down (from the Veracruz) in terms of material grade, but that is reflected in the price points.
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Re: Sad Story [vad1819] by aviboy97
Jan 31, 2008 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: vad1819 (Jan 31, 2008 6:26 am)

I read that. I also read what the kid posted in the M5 forums as well. Very sad.
 
It hit me really hard, for I was almost killed in a car accident back in May of 1998. My friend was driving his 97 Mustang GT, I was the passenger, we hit a hairpin corner at 60, we spun out and got t-boned by a Ford Expedition. I broke every rib and had a collapsed lung. I had to be extracted from the vehicle. Spent a while in the hospital. If I had not seen the Expo comming, and attempted to move out of the way, I would not be here. The car was destroyed. I was 19 at the time and my friend was 18. He and I both learned a lesson in joy riding. Still best friends to this day.
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Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe [ateixeira] by vad1819
Jan 31, 2008 (8:31 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 31, 2008 7:43 am)

Hyundai or Kia are designed cars look like they 10 years behind. The leather or interior can look great, but is it durable?
We are all know car makers like BMW, GM, Ford, Mercedes make their car forever.Their engines going hundreds and hundreds miles. Will korean car do same?
I don't believe it. All previous generation this car only good for 100k then it's a junk.
So when you're taking car for lease it maight have a point. The cheap, almost maintenance free. But for buy, I will take Toyota or GM over Hyundai or Kia. The cheap goods have never been a good. All Walmart in this goods. So I'm not saying don't buy these cars, but on market have better choice then this cars.
In same depertment Suzuki, Daewoo, Geo, Isuzu. By the way used to be on this list was Saturn. But it's really came out a very good in last couple years. The new Vue is a very good design, but I'm still doubt about how it will look after 100K.
That' my point how car will look after 100k the interior and exterior.

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