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Replying to: zman3 (Jan 30, 2008 1:07 pm) |
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Replying to: vad1819 (Jan 30, 2008 3:11 pm)
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Replying to: albook (Jan 30, 2008 2:06 pm) now all they have to do is re-engineer it to get the weight out of it and come up a more efficient powerplant to take into account the new cafe regs. if they would have put it on a diet in the first place that would one less task on the list of things to do to stay competitive and conform to evolving regulations that they all seemed to think would never get here with all of their lobbying, whining and such. so call it hits on some fronts and falling squarely on their face in others. that's also not to say the others aren't faced with the same tasks ahead just to varying degrees. looking forward to the chicago auto show to finally sit in some to see what all the hype is about around here for all of them.
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Replying to: vad1819 (Jan 30, 2008 3:11 pm) let's think about this I got to rent a few J body & geo gm cars here and there and you can't tell me they were much better than an elantra. does that have any bearing on the lambda's of today that you so admire, NO. not that I'm running out to buy one but they all have their strengths/weakness' and you simply can't apply that false logic to any of the CUV manufaturer's at this point in this day/age. escorts, glc's, corolla's, civics, j bodies, rabbits, they all blew to varying degree's. rust, poor fit, finish, lousy materials, the list can be made for each. try again Vad.
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Replying to: freealfas (Jan 30, 2008 7:04 pm) Or not, that'd be ok too. An experience with a compact car from one company has nothing to do with that same company's new Crossover. The Saturn Ion is a piece of Crapola as far as I'm concerned, but it doesn't mean the Outlook will be.
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 30, 2008 9:33 pm) |
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Replying to: brooch (Jan 30, 2008 3:44 pm) Let's cut some slack. Our international members typically speak English far better than we can speak their languages. I give Vad an A+ for effort!  tidester, host SUVs and Smart Shopper |
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Off topic: http://www.ocala.com/assets/slideshow/greystone/index.html Do not let the kids drive a muscle cars.
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 30, 2008 9:33 pm) Well said, in fact the leather in the Veracruz puts the leather in Hyundai's own Entourage to shame. Much higher grade of materials. They are not the same at all, that is the whole point. The Azera was a good start, the Veracruz took it one step further, and pretty soon you may sit in a Genesis and simply refuse the believe this is from the same company that used to make the 1986 Excel. The new Sonata and Santa Fe and a definite step down (from the Veracruz) in terms of material grade, but that is reflected in the price points.
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Replying to: vad1819 (Jan 31, 2008 6:26 am) It hit me really hard, for I was almost killed in a car accident back in May of 1998. My friend was driving his 97 Mustang GT, I was the passenger, we hit a hairpin corner at 60, we spun out and got t-boned by a Ford Expedition. I broke every rib and had a collapsed lung. I had to be extracted from the vehicle. Spent a while in the hospital. If I had not seen the Expo comming, and attempted to move out of the way, I would not be here. The car was destroyed. I was 19 at the time and my friend was 18. He and I both learned a lesson in joy riding. Still best friends to this day.
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