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What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: Outlander? [dstew1] by ateixeira
Jan 29, 2008 (7:13 am)
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Replying to: dstew1 (Jan 28, 2008 6:57 pm)

Pardon my typo on the HP rating.
 
The diesel sounds great, in fact if it were for me that would probably be my choice. We don't really want to wait that long, though.
 
The diesel boxer has received rave reviews, and manages to be both quick and efficient. Let's see how they price it.
 
To answer your question, I think it'll be interesting to see if Honda brings a diesel CR-V before Subaru brings a diesel Forester. It would be nice to be able to have choices.
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Re: Crossover Comparison continued [mchappell] by aviboy97
Jan 29, 2008 (7:45 am)
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Replying to: mchappell (Jan 29, 2008 5:41 am)

Correct. I never made any accusation, he did. I have only asked for proof of his allegation. I never made any allegation.
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they won't be dealing on an enclave anytime soon... by freealfas
Jan 29, 2008 (8:33 am)
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Jamie LaReau
Automotive News
January 21, 2008 - 12:01 am ET
 
"DETROIT — General Motors is boosting production of its hot-selling Buick Enclave crossover. It will also switch to a "turn and earn" allocation system in which dealers who sell the most Enclaves will get the biggest allotment of them.
 
Enclave inventory "is still very, very tight — in fact, we're changing the process of allocation," says Jim Bunnell, head of Buick, Pontiac and GMC. "We'll flip it more to a turn-and-earn. It's been on a controlled allocation, and we're doing everything possible to maximize growth."
 
Over the next three months, GM will increase Enclave production, Bunnell said at the auto show. Monthly sales were projected at around 3,000 units but have been 4,000 to 5,000. The company sold 4,726 Enclaves in December.
 
GM will continue the two-shift operation at its plant near Lansing, Mich., where the crossover is built. But "we'll remix the plant to get the optimal build and have as many Enclaves as we possibly can," Bunnell said. "Over time, we'll see more month over month."
 
Lease deals have been the main incentive offer on the Enclave, Bunnell said.
 
"We're not going to run a lot of cash offers on them," he said, "because frankly, we don't need to."
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Re: Crossover Comparison continued [aviboy97] by mchappell
Jan 29, 2008 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jan 29, 2008 7:45 am)

Correct. I never made any accusation, he did. I have only asked for proof of his allegation. I never made any allegation.
 
Understood. My comment was directed to the poster that is stating that the magazines are totally biased due to ad revenues.
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Re: they won't be dealing on an enclave anytime soon... [freealfas] by ateixeira
Jan 29, 2008 (8:57 am)
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Replying to: freealfas (Jan 29, 2008 8:33 am)

Wow, they never had that problem with the Terraza.
 
Still, locally Fitzgerald Buick has prices hovering around invoice (some above, some below).
 
They do only have 3 in stock, though.
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Re: Crossover Comparison continued [mchappell] by aviboy97
Jan 29, 2008 (9:39 am)
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Replying to: mchappell (Jan 29, 2008 8:53 am)

I know. Thanks
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Re: they won't be dealing on an enclave anytime soon... [freealfas] by hoser0eh
Jan 29, 2008 (6:29 pm)
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Replying to: freealfas (Jan 29, 2008 8:33 am)

Thanks freealfas.
I hope that they increase Enclave production enough so more will be available by March. I'm pretty sure that my wife is going to want one (though I've learned to never ASSume anything when it comes to my wife) and I want to have some sort of negotiating room. On the other hand, she might like the Veracruz or CX9. We have appointments to test them both this week.
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Re: they won't be dealing on an enclave anytime soon... [hoser0eh] by samf10
Jan 29, 2008 (9:44 pm)
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Replying to: hoser0eh (Jan 29, 2008 6:29 pm)

You probably can find a similarly equipped Veracruz for almost 8-10K less than the Enclave. Enclave does have a great look though. Personally scared off by issues reported on the forum and stories of poor service/experiences by a lot of dealers/GM themselves. Plus the 40k+ price tag, rather get an MDX in that range. I am very curious to see what you think of the Veracruz and CX-9.
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Re: they won't be dealing on an enclave anytime soon... [hoser0eh] by ateixeira
Jan 30, 2008 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: hoser0eh (Jan 29, 2008 6:29 pm)

Let us know what you think once you've driven them.
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Re: Veracruz and Santa Fe by wamba2000
Jan 30, 2008 (8:21 am)
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Replying to: samf10 (Jan 29, 2008 9:44 pm)

I too was in the market for a crossover. I drove both the 2008 Veracruz and 2008 Santa Fe, along with the Honda Pilot, Toyota Rav4 and Highlander. Having an 06 Hyundai Azera and the experience (great) with it, I was leaning toward the value delivered by Hyundai.
 
The Veracruz is very nice, comfortable and performs very well. It was more quiet than any of the others, road feel and handling was in the top third. I also drove the Santa Fe Limited, but found the headroom was compromised by the now standard sunroof in the Limited. Drove the Santa Fe SE model, still got the V6 and 5 spd AT, but no leather or other nice features. WE determined the Santa Fe was the better size for our needs, so bought the SE.
 
Bottom line, my 6'6" frame fits well, ride is good and quiet, handling great, plus my 6'8" 15 year old (yes, he doesn't fit in anything) can sit in the back. The reclining rear seats was a big plus for comfort.
 
The Limited had one feature I thought was cool: a 110v AC outlet, perfect to plug in your laptop or cell phone, etc. if needed. Saves one less converter to buy.
 
Last comment: Dealers are making some great deals, I bought the 08 Santa Fe $1300 under invoice. There were no rebates at that time. If your dealer has several Veracruz models, I'd expect you could negotiate a good deal below invoice.
 
I appreciate all your comments on this forum; we all have our manufacturer preferences and we drive what works best for us. Your insights and comments help in the study of what will work best. Best of all, the comments are done with respect and we can disagree without getting burned.
 
Good luck to all

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