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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jan 28, 2008 11:26 am) No you misunderstood: According to your own logic, your personal opinion that magazines' opinions of vehicles are not bias due to revenue generated by advertisement does not count (unless you have a proof). If you want to be consistent, personal opinion of “experts” should not count either, uless they have a "proof". Also we don’t know qualifications of these “experts”. I am more interested in ratings here on edmunds.com by real-world owners. Real-world owners don't market or sell cars, but instead they buy them paying hard earned dollars. I have more trust to a 100 of real people who bought a car and drive it for a few months, rather then to one magazine “expert”, who drives a brand new car from dealership just for an hour and who is paid by advertising dollars.
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Replying to: chelentano (Jan 28, 2008 9:32 pm) Isn't the burden of proof normally on the one making the accusation?
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Replying to: dstew1 (Jan 28, 2008 6:57 pm) The diesel sounds great, in fact if it were for me that would probably be my choice. We don't really want to wait that long, though. The diesel boxer has received rave reviews, and manages to be both quick and efficient. Let's see how they price it. To answer your question, I think it'll be interesting to see if Honda brings a diesel CR-V before Subaru brings a diesel Forester. It would be nice to be able to have choices. |
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Replying to: mchappell (Jan 29, 2008 5:41 am)
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Jamie LaReau Automotive News January 21, 2008 - 12:01 am ET "DETROIT — General Motors is boosting production of its hot-selling Buick Enclave crossover. It will also switch to a "turn and earn" allocation system in which dealers who sell the most Enclaves will get the biggest allotment of them. Enclave inventory "is still very, very tight — in fact, we're changing the process of allocation," says Jim Bunnell, head of Buick, Pontiac and GMC. "We'll flip it more to a turn-and-earn. It's been on a controlled allocation, and we're doing everything possible to maximize growth." Over the next three months, GM will increase Enclave production, Bunnell said at the auto show. Monthly sales were projected at around 3,000 units but have been 4,000 to 5,000. The company sold 4,726 Enclaves in December. GM will continue the two-shift operation at its plant near Lansing, Mich., where the crossover is built. But "we'll remix the plant to get the optimal build and have as many Enclaves as we possibly can," Bunnell said. "Over time, we'll see more month over month." Lease deals have been the main incentive offer on the Enclave, Bunnell said. "We're not going to run a lot of cash offers on them," he said, "because frankly, we don't need to."
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jan 29, 2008 7:45 am) Understood. My comment was directed to the poster that is stating that the magazines are totally biased due to ad revenues.
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Replying to: freealfas (Jan 29, 2008 8:33 am) Still, locally Fitzgerald Buick has prices hovering around invoice (some above, some below). They do only have 3 in stock, though. |
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Replying to: mchappell (Jan 29, 2008 8:53 am) 
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Replying to: freealfas (Jan 29, 2008 8:33 am) I hope that they increase Enclave production enough so more will be available by March. I'm pretty sure that my wife is going to want one (though I've learned to never ASSume anything when it comes to my wife) and I want to have some sort of negotiating room. On the other hand, she might like the Veracruz or CX9. We have appointments to test them both this week.
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Replying to: hoser0eh (Jan 29, 2008 6:29 pm)
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