You are here: Forums SUVs Crossover SUV Comparison

Crossover SUV Comparison

7126 messages,  Last post on Nov 18, 2009 at 1:27 PM

You are in the SUVs Forum. Your Hosts are steve_ & tidester

What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV

#5313 of 7126 Re: Crossover Comparison continued [samf10] by biscuit_xls Jan 27, 2008 (12:18 pm)
Replying to: samf10 (Jan 27, 2008 11:31 am) Outlander V6...4WD, paddle shifters, quick DVD based touch-screen Nav, DVD player, music hard drive, 6 speed, V6, 3rd row seating, load leveling HID headlights, 9 speaker 650W Rockford Fosgate stereo, 18" alloys, great brakes, Bluetooth, 20+ mpg mileage, 10 year warranty, leather interior, best handling in class, PZEV engine, flip down rear tailgate, fastkey keyless entry & ignition. MSRP is $33K and you can get it for just under $30K.
#5314 of 7126 Re: Crossover Comparison continued [freealfas] by samf10 Jan 27, 2008 (12:38 pm)
Replying to: freealfas (Jan 27, 2008 12:10 pm) Thanks for the input. I would actually look at the Outlander but too many consistent reviews mention drawbacks in comfort, utility, and mpg (for size) and price for what you get. In Edmunds inside line comparison test of compact SUV's it came in 4th behind the RAV-4, Rogue, CR-V. I am looking more towards a mid-size, and if I were to more compact it would be the RDX for a 2-3K more and much better. Same time I do like to check out these vehicles myself and not just based on reviews, but if there is a consistent consensus from multiple reviews on a car, tends to be true. Maybe i'll check it out though.   As far as the Taurus X, I have absolute zero faith in ford these days, and I'm not really into the Hearst look, no offense. Replies to this message: freealfas (Jan 27, 2008 12:48 pm) samf10 (Jan 27, 2008 1:25 pm) humblecoder (Jan 27, 2008 2:05 pm) freealfas (Jan 27, 2008 2:44 pm) hoser0eh (Jan 27, 2008 6:14 pm) biscuit_xls (Jan 27, 2008 10:17 pm) freealfas (Jan 27, 2008 10:32 pm) chelentano (Jan 27, 2008 10:52 pm) samf10 (Jan 28, 2008 9:02 am) aviboy97 (Jan 28, 2008 9:05 am) chelentano (Jan 28, 2008 9:45 am) and 7 more...
#5315 of 7126 Re: Crossover Comparison continued [samf10] by freealfas Jan 27, 2008 (12:48 pm)
Replying to: samf10 (Jan 27, 2008 12:38 pm) I really like the "Hearst" look it makes it look much more expensive than it really is... LOL   as for faith in ford, I'd argue that gm has had more serious teething problems with the lambdas than ford ever had with the FS/T-reX... as for the rest, whatever... You asked, I offered without trying to be "offensive".   not sure why people feel compelled to insult than say well really I didn't mean anything by it, why say it in the first place?   moving on, good luck with whatever you buy for whatever reason you choose it. Replies to this message: samf10 (Jan 27, 2008 1:25 pm) humblecoder (Jan 27, 2008 2:05 pm) freealfas (Jan 27, 2008 2:44 pm)
#5316 of 7126 Re: Crossover Comparison continued [freealfas] by samf10 Jan 27, 2008 (1:25 pm)
Replying to: freealfas (Jan 27, 2008 12:48 pm) Its not an insult or a shot at you. I really do appreciate the suggestion and help on something i may overlooked. However when i look at the car that is the honest reaction i get. Felt compelled to say no offense b/c people can take their cars pretty personal. I do not think i am alone in thinking the ford X looks like a hearst. I personally would not buy it for that reason. Cars are subjective right, if everyone liked the same car that would be pretty boring and many companies would be out of business. Enjoy your Taurus X, i'll call you for arrangements for its use next time i know of a funeral. Replies to this message: humblecoder (Jan 27, 2008 2:05 pm) freealfas (Jan 27, 2008 2:44 pm)
#5317 of 7126 Re: Crossover Comparison continued [samf10] by tim156 Jan 27, 2008 (1:33 pm)
Replying to: samf10 (Jan 27, 2008 11:31 am) So, let me understand this. You test drove all those cars, even the 09 Murano? That's 12 vehicles, I'm impressed. I have an 07 Freestyle SEL with a BP gas cap and it doesn't affect the style, performance, ride, interior space or value one bit. I was at my Ford dealer a couple of weeks ago and there was a rack with plenty of Edge, Taurus X and every other vehicle brochure in the Ford and Lincoln line. Maybe the dealer you went to just forgot to order some and was too embarrassed to admit it. As for the Edge, some friends just bought an SEL and I think it's a pretty nice car. Not as roomy as my Freestyle, but plenty of room for 4 adults going out for dinner. They got a really good deal on a nicely loaded 07. It was pricey, but still less than most you list with the options they have. We didn't have a chance to really open it up but it seemed to accelerate just fine on to the freeway and the ride was smooth and quiet. I don't know, there just seems to be a lot of Ford haters out there. I like mine, and my friends are very pleased with their purchase. Good luck making your decision.
#5318 of 7126 Re: Crossover Comparison continued [samf10] by humblecoder Jan 27, 2008 (2:05 pm)
Replying to: samf10 (Jan 27, 2008 1:25 pm) However when i look at the car that is the honest reaction i get. Felt compelled to say no offense b/c people can take their cars pretty personal. I do not think i am alone in thinking the ford X looks like a hearst.   After reading your post I went back and looked at some pictures of the TX, and now that you mention it, I do see some resemblance to a hearse! I never really thought about it before, until you brought it up.   Bear in mind that I will soon be the owner of a TX in a few weeks, and your observation certainly hasn't changed my opinion. On the contrary, it'll come in handy lugging around the mother-in-law!
#5320 of 7126 Re: TX and other CUV's [baggs32] by vad1819 Jan 27, 2008 (2:29 pm)
Replying to: baggs32 (Jan 27, 2008 12:08 pm) I don't argue about your opinion. It's good that you're liked. I just share my experience from auto show.     "Does anyone sit adults in the second row of these things for long trips the majority of the time they are driving it?"   Yes it does matter. When your kid will be hitting back of your seat. The TX no longer fuel saver with new engine in there. So, why not buy bigger more comfortable CUV.   About Flex: the interior looks same as TX. The second row moves same as TX, even seat same.The space behind third row looks same as TX. I have not measured with the tape. The very good CUV is Volvo. A lot space almost same as Acadia, rear smaller bottom part of the gate drops down, I liked it very much. ( I'm taking back what I said before about Volvo).   But if you're willing to spent 45 grand or more for family CUV the Mercedes R-class will be one of the best choices. The interior is superior compare to any CUV, at same time conservative using high quality materials, even interior door handles feels like you're sitting in the sedan. There're no reasons to compare R-class to Q7, R has much, much better interior and space. Q7 is more like oversize Toureg. Replies to this message: baggs32 (Jan 28, 2008 10:30 am) ateixeira (Jan 28, 2008 11:22 am)
#5321 of 7126 Re: Crossover Comparison continued [samf10] by freealfas Jan 27, 2008 (2:44 pm)
Replying to: samf10 (Jan 27, 2008 1:25 pm) I don't have a T-rerX, I don't care really, I just don't understand why people feel the need to take shots at it when there is absolutely no reason to.   BTW - it's "hearse", I alluded to "Hearst" in my reply as he was a man of great wealth and taste in fine art from all era's, so calling it a "Hearst" could have been construed, while a stretch, as complimentary. As I mentioned I found the irony in the your statement and was just trying to point that out.   as for funeral arrangements you'll need at least a lambda because everyone around here knows you'd never get a coffin in a FS/T-reX as been proven time and time again here in this forum it's just not big enough. bigger is better in that instance, but keep trying. it more looks the part anyway...LOL
#5322 of 7126 Re: Crossover Comparison continued [samf10] by hoser0eh Jan 27, 2008 (6:14 pm)
Replying to: samf10 (Jan 27, 2008 12:38 pm) Crossover update. I went to both the Toyota and GM (Canadian) sites to build and price the Highlander and Enclave. (I only do this if the vehicle is still on my list after the first test drive.) I noticed at the GM site that the Enclave won an award from the Automobile Journalist Association of Canada (AJAC) as best new CUV above $60,000. To get it to that incredible price, they had to load it up with every conceivable option. I’m guessing they did this so it wouldn’t compete against the Acadia in the 35K-60K class and the Outlook in the under 35K class. The interesting thing is, the Enclave beat out some pretty nice vehicles: BMW X5, Mercedes Benz GL-Class, Mercedes Benz M-Class. Even more interesting perhaps is that the other two Lambdas did not win their divisions. The Highlander, Veracruz, CX9, Pathfinder, Tribeca, and Volvo XC70 were in the 35K-60K group with the Acadia, so they did not compete directly against the Enclave. This group was won by the Saturn Vue. I’m not sure how the ratings were determined, but obviously they were grouped on price rather than by size. Anyway, I priced a base Enclave CX, with the trailering package and delivery charges at 42665 before tax. I would have liked to include the backup camera, but it is part of a $4300 package only. If I buy the Enclave, I’ll probably get an aftermarket camera. The Highlander SR5 model (which adds the power drivers seat, 6 disc cd, auto rear liftgate, backup camera) priced out at 44,300 after adding trailering items and delivery charges, but before taxes. Of course, these are list prices, before incentives and dealer discounts. I know the Americans who read these posts will probably fall off their chairs, at how expensive vehicles are in Canada. I then went to a website that shows you (for a small fee) the Canadian retail and dealer cost prices for these vehicles (I’m not sure if it’s okay to mention the name of that site here, so I won’t). The difference between dealer cost and retail price on both vehicles is almost exactly $4000. I always go in with this information and tell the dealer I would be happy to allow them 25% of the difference, and usually end up negotiating it to around 30%. Hopefully that will work this time too. Our plans for the coming week are to take the Highlander and Enclave for a second test drive, plus either the Veracruz or CX9. I’ll let you know how it goes.

You are here: Forums SUVs Crossover SUV Comparison