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Replying to: biscuit_xls (Jan 25, 2008 10:12 am) In the end, a rear collision test can only be good from a safety standpoint. The extent of side intrusion beams only became standard after the side impact tests were adopted and results publicized. If any of these vehicles are lacking in rear protection, the market will force it to quickly be addressed.
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Replying to: volkov (Jan 25, 2008 10:37 am) |
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Replying to: volkov (Jan 25, 2008 10:37 am)  I have no worries about having my head rest on the rear hatch of any CUV/SUV/van.
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Replying to: chuckhoy (Jan 25, 2008 10:45 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 25, 2008 6:51 am) Not only ES. A second 2.4-liter model, the new Outlander Special Edition arrives in early 2008. The Outlander SE combines the economy of the new 4-cylinder engine and CVT with amenities from the premium XLS model, plus exclusive new interior and exterior features. Driving performance in the Outlander SE is enhanced by Sportronic® shifting with magnesium steering wheel paddle shifters or console shift, as in the Outlander XLS model. Like the XLS model, the Outlander SE is equipped with 18-inch alloy wheels. The FAST Key entry system, standard on LS and XLS models, is also standard on the Special Edition. The Outlander Special Edition excels in onboard entertainment. Offered as standard, the 650-watt (max.) Rockford-Fosgate® Premium Audio system features digital signal processing and nine speakers, including a rear subwoofer. This high-end audio package, which is optional on the Outlander XLS, includes SIRIUS® Satellite Radio with six month pre-paid subscription. Exclusive to the Outlander 2.4 SE are new interior door panel trim and chrome door handles, chrome-accented exterior door handles and side sills, mesh fabric seats with leather bolsters, and high-contrast instrument gauges. Some Outlander SE features will be available on other Outlander models for 2009. So it seems SE model is actually is even better equipped vs. XLE model, and unlike XLE, the SE comes with Rokford Fosgate premium stereo standard. http://www.ajc.com/ajccars/content/ajccars/content/stories/2008/01/09/carmitsubi- shi_0112.html http://media.mitsubishicars.com/detail?mid=MIT2007111569663&mime=ASC |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 25, 2008 10:47 am) cars are not amusement park rides with an attendant checking the hight of riders. unless of course they come one comes as a no cost option and they just take up residence with you and the family going with you everywhere so you are verified as in compliance allowing you to fully sue mitsu in the event of a death or injury back there.
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Replying to: freealfas (Jan 25, 2008 3:32 pm) chelentano: if you cut/paste and quote a large text like that, you should italicize it so we know it's marketing-speak, and not your own writing. An SE models sounds better. Why paddle shifters if it's a CVT? I never got that. You build a transmission capable of choosing an optimum ratio for any condition, then you take away that benefit and create artificial shifts. A question, though, my Buyer's Guide says if you get NAV you lose the CD changer and can only load one CD, is that right? I guess you have to load the songs to the hard drive? Seems like extra work.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 25, 2008 5:32 pm) The shift points were added because lots of people requested the feeling of the car shifting. I think you can set it so it doesn't simulate shifting. The paddle shifters come in handy when going downhill, just click it down a gear for engine braking, to go back to full auto mode you hold the right paddle for a couple seconds. You never have to take your hands off the steering wheel. The 3rd row on many CUVs is designed for limited use only. Any shopper should be able to figure that out when they check out the vehicle in person. Sit back there for a minute and you'll know whether it will fit your needs. For me it's fine, I've used it maybe 5 times in the first year, every time it was a fun experience for the kids who sat back there. The rest of the time it is hidden completely out of view with no loss of storage space or higher floor level."> 
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Hello again. Checking back in with our Crossover Comparison. After test driving the Toyota Highlander earlier this week, we thought that we should try out something a bit bigger, to better suit our overall needs/wants. So, I arranged for a test drive of a GMC Acadia. We arrived at the dealership, talked to the salesman, got the brochure and the keys, walked out towards the Acadias, and passed by some Enclaves on the way…. Sudden stop…. My wife looks at the big Buick and says excitedly; “Wow, do I ever like this. Is this one of the vehicles on our list?” I respond yes, but mention that we are here to test drive the Acadia today, and that we can drive the Enclave another day. She looks at the Acadias, then back at the Enclaves, then looks at the salesman and says; “Why don’t we drive the Enclave today?” The salesman smiles, realizes he’s got a nibble on his line and says that he would be just as happy to go back and get the keys for an Enclave. Not wanting to argue, I agree, and we go back in to get the keys and another brochure. Sensing my wife’s excitement, I ask the salesman for the keys to a CX model with as few options as possible. He smiles at me (as if we can both read each other’s minds) and says, “of course”. He takes us back to the vehicle and shows us around it, talking up how it compares so well to a Lexus RX350 (how does he know the Lexus is my wife’s favourite?), only more quiet, and with room for 7 or 8. This guy is good. My wife gets in the driver’s seat and begins to oooooh and aaaaah. Note to self: never take wife to a poker game. The salesman points out a few things about driving the vehicle and sends us on our way for a half hour test drive. My wife drives for the first 15 minutes. She’s loving it. She keeps talking about how smooth and secure it drives, and how she feels like she’s driving a luxury car. And of course about how good it looks, both inside and out. I ask her how it compares to the Toyota Highlander that we drove a few days earlier and she says that it’s just as good; no, its better; definitely better. I mention that we will have to drive every vehicle at least twice to make sure we do a fair comparison. She agrees. We stop to check out the second row seats (excellent), access to the third row (which is great), and third row comfort (also very good for 2). She loves the automatic tailgate, and we agree that storage behind the third row is significantly more than in the Highlander. So far everything is win/win. My turn to drive. I get in, shut the door, and suddenly realize - that is the best sounding door closing I have ever heard. And before even turning on the ignition, I feel isolated from the outside world. It is eerily quiet. Buick has done a really good job on this. I turn the ignition key and off we go again. I take it out on the highway for a good run. No problems. Adequate power (not quite as much as the Toyota). Solid steering feel. Smooth as butter. And quiet. I can’t believe how quiet this thing is. I take it to a new subdivision area with lots of road potholes and bumps. It handles the rough road very well. Much nicer than I remember the Highlander doing. Or does it just “seem” better, because it is quieter than the Toyota? I’m not sure. Heading back to the dealership, I mention to my wife to try not to gush too much about the Enclave to the salesman. If he knows this is the one you want, he will not be willing to deal much. We agree to tell him that it is just as nice as the Toyota, and that we will go back to drive the Toyota again for comparison purposes. I also ask her if she would like to try out the Acadia sometime as well. She says that would be okay, if we have the time, but that she really likes the Enclave, so it might be a waste of our time to try the Acadia. We get back to the dealership and give back the keys. We mention how we “liked” it and that we are going to drive the Highlander again to get a fair comparison, as well as the Veracruz and CX9. He tells us to please drive all those vehicles, but to make sure we come back to drive this one again too, and to let him know how it compares to the others. I’m thinking my wife has her mind made up already. But I’m hoping to get her to try the others too. On the other hand, I must admit, I really liked the Enclave as well. It’s better than I expected. It’s the nicest GM I’ve ever been in. Any thoughts, opinions, or suggestions? |
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Replying to: hoser0eh (Jan 26, 2008 10:21 am)
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