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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 23, 2008 7:17 pm) I'm sure I'm in the minority because the CR-V is an established vehicle in the class, pretty much guaranteed to be among the top sellers. But that doesn't automatically make it a better vehicle. Drive the I4 CR-V and V6 Outlander back-to-back and you'll see the Outlander is in a completely different category. It doesn't downshift frequently, it doesn't have to rev to redline when getting on the freeway, it doesn't bog down with 4 passengers, it can tow twice as much, and it is so much smoother and quieter. I'll give up a few mpg for all of the benefits of the V6. I really wanted to like the CR-V because I own a 2003 I4 Accord EX-L that has been a great vehicle. Unfortunately the CR-V just wasn't fun to drive and lacked a lot of important features for me (3rd row, 6 speed, HID headlights, V6, SULEV rating, 18" alloy etc).
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 22, 2008 7:21 pm) Like psychogun correctly said the Forester is not more fuel efficient. But if you’d like to compare it to a heavier vehicles, then yes it is more fuel efficient then Navigator. Also the Forester’s 4-cylider turbo is not as smooth as V6. The turbo has to work harder, burns premium fuel and it supports smaller payload. . >> Mitsu has done a good job putting toppings on the sundae, though. Perhaps to draw attention away from the platform's roots (Dodge Caliber) The Outlander is not based on Caliber, but it’s more like the other way around. And unlike the Caliber, the US-sold Outlander build entirely in Japan with all Japanese parts and labor, which is the main reason it has highest CR reliability and Edmunds/MSN/YahooAutos owner satisfaction ratings. The Outlander is originally based on Lancer platform and now the Outlander is a platform on its own. It’s a parent to a couple of French SUVs: Peugeot and Citroën sell their own rebadged versions of the Outlander.  
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 23, 2008 12:55 pm) Well, you keep forgetting how we got started talking about Dakar in that thread. Mitsubishi’s success in Dakar Rallying is not less relevant, then your phony Youtube marketing video, where Subarus CTI beat Lancers EVO. Here I’d have to agree to aviboy97: do you really want to continue that conversation? If that’s the case, be my guest and check out this news, which make the Outlander pretty darn relevant to Dakar: http://www.easier.com/view/News/Motoring/Mitsubishi/article-153196.html "The Mitsubishi Outlander has been selected to be the sole support vehicle for Team Repsol Mitsubishi Ralliart’s title defence in 2008. The modified Outlander will tackle the support vehicles’ route, which differs only slightly from the competing cars. These vehicles require a high degree of off-road ability to cross the challenging terrain of the region's vast, sandy and rocky expanses. The 2008 Dakar Outlander has been modified to comply with ASO's safety regulations and features four racing bucket seats with full harness belts, a safety roll-cage, an additional fuel tank, underbody protection, Bose dampers, navigational equipment, and a host of other features. The engine, running gear, and fundamental chassis architecture however remain identical to the standard production car." This year rally of course was cancelled for security reasons, but that’s a different story… 
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Replying to: biscuit_xls (Jan 23, 2008 9:26 pm) Marketing spending and dealer network make a big difference. |
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| I was about to buy a GMC Acadia when I read many entries on the Acadia Problems and Repairs forum. I couldn't tell if these problems are in 0.1% of the CUVs or in 10%. It also seemed that the problems were new model bugs that should be have been eliminated by today. I'm thinking about the 1) passenger side air bag on/off, 2) electrical power interruption with engine stopping, 3) gas pedal vibrating, and 4) Stabilitrack & traction control not working. What are the chances that I would see these problems if I bought a new 08 Acadia? | |
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Replying to: bobe1 (Jan 23, 2008 10:51 pm) |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 23, 2008 8:44 pm) Please examples of old 4 -cyc. that smoother that old GM V6.
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Replying to: bobe1 (Jan 23, 2008 10:51 pm) That being said, I think the sunroof issue is a real concern if you get a Lambda with a sunroof. Personally, I don't like sunroofs because they weaken the roof in case of a rollover and it is just another thing that can fail. But, lots of people love them and I am in the minority here. If I got a Lambda with a sunroof, I would make the dealer check to make sure the drainage tube is connected properly. BTW: I have had my Outlook since Memorial Day last year and we have had no problems whatsoever. Even in snow, ice and -10 F weather. Today it is -15 F and it ran just like it always does. By far the nicest car I have ever owned. |
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Replying to: bobe1 (Jan 23, 2008 10:51 pm) |
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I think Honda made a big mistake by not putting a 3rd row into the CRV. Even if it was small, like the Highlander or RAV4, it would at least be an option for the occasional kid use. The first two rows are great and I love the folding table between the front 2 seats (much better than a fixed center console in my opinion.
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