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What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: VC [ateixeira] by aviboy97
Jan 19, 2008 (6:03 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 18, 2008 10:45 am)

Remember right before the last one, Mazda yanked plans for their upscale division, what was it going to be called, Amati IIRC?
 
That's correct. Remember, Mazda was in rough shape back then. Mazda did actually produce a luxury vehicle under the Amati name, but, since the brand never launched, they named it the Millenia. I still get people to this day looking for the Millenia, or the current Mazda equivalent, and the Mazda6 just dose not quite cut it.
 
I think Mazda needs to perfect their brand quality and image before they can attempt a launch of a luxury line again. I'm actually surprised that Nissan succeeded with Infiniti, considering they were in dire straights when they launched Infiniti.
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Re: VC [aviboy97] by cason1
Jan 19, 2008 (10:56 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jan 19, 2008 6:03 am)

I had a Millenia S. It was really a seriously under appreciated car. Very nice car to roll up big miles on trips in. Not the best handling car I've ever owned, but that wasn't really it's mission. The controls were very good and it was very reliable. On the down side, it depreciated like crazy I bought it used so I didn't get killed as bad as the first owner) and considering the size of the v-6, the gas mileage was pretty poor.
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Re: VC [cason1] by aviboy97
Jan 19, 2008 (1:09 pm)
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Replying to: cason1 (Jan 19, 2008 10:56 am)

What you just said it what I hear constantly. People loved it. Mazda never got a chance to refine it, and just kicked it to the curb after 2002. The only other car Mazda was going to place in the Amati name was the Eunos Cosmo, a 300hp rotary luxury vehicle with technology similar to i-drive from BMW, only 10 years earlier. The car was way ahead of its time.
 
Back to crossovers!
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Color of My Tribeca by ylz
Jan 20, 2008 (7:56 am)
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Hello everyone. I'm new to this forum but am about to purchase a 2008 Tribeca 5 Pas/Limited. Now I am really torn about getting the black exterior with beige interior or the diamond gray exterior with gray interior. I wanted black on black but obviously that's not possible. The beige interior is much nicer in person and I always wanted a black SUV. But people keep telling me to stay away from black cars cause they're so dam hard to keep clean. Has anyone that had a black car share some insight to this. Now the diamond gray color is also gorgeous on the outside. You guys let me know which one you like better. Thanks.
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Re: Color of My Tribeca [ylz] by barnstormer64
Jan 20, 2008 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: ylz (Jan 20, 2008 7:56 am)

White is actually harder to keep clean than black is.
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Re: Color of My Tribeca [barnstormer64] by albook
Jan 20, 2008 (8:52 am)
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Replying to: barnstormer64 (Jan 20, 2008 8:00 am)

White is actually harder to keep clean than black is
 
White carpet. I'd say black leather is harder to keep clean.
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Ford Explorer America by albook
Jan 20, 2008 (9:02 am)
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So the Explorer really does move to a unibody platform. In my oppinion, If the production vehhicle looks half as good in comparison to this as the Flex looks in comparison to the Fairlane concept, Ford's got a hit. And it can't be all about looks either. Ford has to include some of the features from the concept, like the turbo 4 and six.
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Re: Color of My Tribeca [ylz] by freealfas
Jan 20, 2008 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: ylz (Jan 20, 2008 7:56 am)

we have a black/black limited FS and I'm not sure I would get black again despite it looking great when clean. It really does not take long for it to look dirty once washed. mine is parked on the street though and if you are garaging yours that might sway me to think about getting it. other than that if it's a day in/day out ride clean is going to be a challenge.
 
in the end though get what you like as you are the one making the payments and looking at it everyday... good luck
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Re: Color of My Tribeca [ylz] by txbricklayer
Jan 20, 2008 (10:56 am)
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Replying to: ylz (Jan 20, 2008 7:56 am)

I bought a black Impala for my granddaughter.
 
That's the color she asked for-----------now regrets the choice----too hard to keep it looking clean.
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Re: Ford Explorer America [albook] by baggs32
Jan 20, 2008 (11:22 am)
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Replying to: albook (Jan 20, 2008 9:02 am)

And it can't be all about looks either. Ford has to include some of the features from the concept, like the turbo 4 and six.
 
Take this with a grain of salt right now, but the info I've read on a Ford forum is that the next Explorer, which will be unibody, is slated for production in Summer 2009 as a 2010 model. Right about the same time a new Taurus is due on a new version of the D3 (Volvo XC90, S80, Taurus, Taurus X, etc) platform. It seems like the next Explorer might use that platform too. Should keep the price down and the safety up if nothing else.
 
I can't see why they wouldn't use the EcoBoost I4 and V6 with the new unibody chassis. Towing will be limited by the chassis anyway so a V8 or a big V6 are unnecessary IMO. Looks like Ford will be telling everyone who needs to tow anything over 3500 or 4000 lbs to buy an F-150 or Expedition.
 
The new blowns engines are said, by Ford, to increase fuel econ over the current Explorer's V6 and V8 by 20% and 30%. However they don't say which one increases by 20% or 30%. Given the 4.0L Cologne V6s age I'd guess it is the one that gets a 30% boost in fuel econ by being replaced with a more powerful blow I4. That would mean it goes from 13 city to 17 city and 19 highway to 25 highway.
 
I'll be watching this one very closely. If they do it right then it might be worth waiting for. They need to get rid of the "bold" grille though IMO.

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