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What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: price/size [scott613] by vad1819
Jan 17, 2008 (7:47 pm)
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Replying to: scott613 (Jan 17, 2008 6:38 pm)

"Here's a few areas where the cheap Hyundai VC beats your Acadia:
 - expected resale values on Kelley Blue Book the Acadia lags behind the VC for both 07 and 08 models (thru 5 yrs). Not bad for people looking for a cheap ride as you call it.
 Warranty. Why doesn't GMC stand behind their product for longer than 3/36 for the bumper-to-bumper warranty? I get 5/60 which means $0 out of pocket for those last 2/24. Hope you bought an extended warranty on your Acadia? Based on reliability studies GMC and Hyundia rank about the same so you are as likely to have a problem as I am. I also get better powertrain and corrosion warranties."
 
1. Expected. That's right. Kelly Blue Book has no valid numbers. Who cares what number will be by Kelly blue book. Try to sell or trade using this numbers.It's only for dealership, how to screw you more. No valid point on this.
2. $0, if you will do all recommended maintenance right at dealer. So you will pay a lot money for schedule maintenance. So no valid point either.
At the end if you will try to sell it, you will loose more money, just because it's Hyundai, not a GM or Honda or Toyota. I don't do any extended warranties. Never bought, never will. It's waist of money. Never pays off. It's applies for house appliances too. They covered, but ........ always BUT. Let's come back in four - five years here, and see who's right.
In the end on this forum best CUV's are CX-9, VC, Outlander, TX; the worst one Acadia, Highlander, Pilot, MDX,RX..... Is it something wrong here? Oh, I guess cheaper is better. Good. But... nothing.
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Re: price/size [vad1819] by thegraduate
Jan 17, 2008 (10:10 pm)
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Replying to: vad1819 (Jan 17, 2008 5:54 am)

I don't try to insult anybody.
My point is ok to pay 20-30 grand for Hyundai, but 40 grand plus for this car it's insane.

 
It seems you are caught in a loop of insults. Do you not get it?
 
We get it, you feel Hyundai is inferior, but deriding others for choosing it and saying how much they feel they would pay for it - IS AN INSULT. C'mon Vad, surely you understand this.
 
I'm shocked, on this forum at beginning everyone like CX-9, and then the VC becomes better choice. How is in the world you can compare CX-9 to VC?
 
I can't speak for others, but I'm not defending the vehicle or claiming it to be, as you say, "better choice." I'm defending the people who you insult over and over for choosing something because THEY FIND IT BETTER SUITED TO THEIR NEEDS than you do. GET OVER IT VAD, THE GM LAMBDA CUVs AREN'T THE BEST TO EVERYONE. Do you get it yet?
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Re: price/size [thegraduate] by tidester HOST
Jan 17, 2008 (10:51 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 17, 2008 10:10 pm)

Take a deep breath ...
 
Count to 10 ...
 
Engage mouse scroll wheel ...
 
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
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Re: price/size [vad1819] by bobw3
Jan 18, 2008 (12:12 am)
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Replying to: vad1819 (Jan 17, 2008 7:47 pm)

. $0, if you will do all recommended maintenance right at dealer
Vad, you're wrong on this, sorry.
 
I don't do any extended warranties. Never bought, never will. It's waist of money. Never pays off.
sorry, wrong on this one too, because of your word choice "never" in that they "never pays off"
 
Folks may just want to stop responding to Vad. If you read the comments, I think you'll realize there's something "odd" about them
 
Let's come back in four - five years here, and see who's right.
on this you're right on, so why not just come back and give us a post then, I'm sure most folks can wait till then
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Re: price/size [thegraduate] by vad1819
Jan 18, 2008 (5:42 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 17, 2008 10:10 pm)

"I can't speak for others, but I'm not defending the vehicle or claiming it to be, as you say, "better choice." .I'm defending the people who you insult over and over for choosing something because THEY FIND IT BETTER SUITED TO THEIR NEEDS than you do."
 
I think you're doing a trolling. You don't have any position, you're swinging between different cars. So, give me you're "better choice", that I can recored for future refernces.
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Re: price/size [bobw3] by vad1819
Jan 18, 2008 (6:21 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Jan 18, 2008 12:12 am)

The extended warranties in most case not working, it's even CR reported the way dealer makes money. Same about electronics CC or Best buy got huge profits from extended warranties.
So, until 100K most cars don’t have problems in our days, after 100k it's used car. I've always keep car just over 100k, than trade or better sell it.
"May be it needs for Ford TX?!"
I had extended warranty for Explorer; dealer gave away for free, or may be left from previous owner. So for 5 years i never use it.
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Re: price/size [vad1819] by bobw3
Jan 18, 2008 (6:48 am)
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Replying to: vad1819 (Jan 18, 2008 6:21 am)

I've always keep car just over 100k,
 
How long do you think it will take you to put $100K on your Acadia? I guess you won't be in the market for another car until then.
 
Actually, since you had a trouble-free Explorer for 5 years I'd think you'd get another Ford since you've had such good luck from them!
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Re: price/size [bobw3] by vad1819
Jan 18, 2008 (8:58 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Jan 18, 2008 6:48 am)

yes I do if Ford will have good model. Before Acadia came up and I had smaller family, I thought to buy Edge. I have test drove for whole day. it's good car. Only one problem needs little more power or better trans. settings. The trans and power ratio one of the biggest problem in domestics cars. They look underpower, compare to made in japan. The best ratio power in the Nissan cars.
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Re: price/size [vad1819] by bobw3
Jan 18, 2008 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: vad1819 (Jan 18, 2008 8:58 am)

Maybe because Nissan is going for power and many of the domestics are trying for better MPG...depends on what you want. Do you need the power for towing, or do you just like the extra zip when you press the gas?
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Re: VC [baggs32] by ateixeira
Jan 18, 2008 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Jan 17, 2008 5:57 pm)

However, the VC is not called "the Hyundai" but rather "the Veracruz" is their name of choice for it. It's like they are afraid to call it by the mfrs name.
 
Very interesting.
 
In fact we're talking about Hyundai in this thread, if you want to hop over and share that tidbit:
 
ateixeira, "Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai?" #1141, 18 Jan 2008 10:38 am
 
Hyundai wants to make Kia their value brand and move Hyundai upscale, but as good as the cars are, the memory of the name is still a handicap IMHO.
 
It's simply hard to fathom that the company that used to make the Excel and Scoupe make the Veracruz. Night and day.
 
Maybe they should launch a new brand?
 
Bad timing, as we approach a likely recession. Remember right before the last one, Mazda yanked plans for their upscale division, what was it going to be called, Amati IIRC?

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