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Replying to: vad1819 (Jan 16, 2008 7:44 pm) I believe Jim Kenzie, noted Canadian automobile journalist, chose the X5 as the WORST car he tested in 2007. Now I might not take it that far but you can see different strokes for different folks. FTR, I do know a bit about cars so don't feel too sad for me. Maybe I'll take my in-laws BMW5 for a run today. Or the Pacifica Touring. Steal my buddies G35 like I do sometimes when he's not looking. Or sit around and get nostalgic about by Dad's super stock 57 Chev 283 Bel Air. And I sure don't miss my Audi that was in the garage more than my son is into the cookies. |
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Replying to: vad1819 (Jan 16, 2008 3:43 pm) Not "too many" years ago, anyone could make that statement regarding any Japanese vehicle as well. Give it a break, the Korean automobile manufacturing industry is following the exact paradigm as the Japanese industry before it. Do you really think that Japanese vehicles were always of very high perceived or real quality? Evidently, you're not old enough to really remember the poor quality of some of the Japanese vehicles in the past. |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 16, 2008 9:30 pm) My point is ok to pay 20-30 grand for Hyundai, but 40 grand plus for this car it's insane. There are a lot more choices in this price range, and much better cars. Also, you may admit the handling part is terrible on all Hyundai. I'm shocked, on this forum at beginning everyone like CX-9, and then the VC becomes better choice. How is in the world you can compare CX-9 to VC? Just couple years ago I knew people who tell me “will never forget the day they bought Hyundai". As much time we’re spending in car and driving, we should enjoy our cars and driving experience. It’s like having good house. But the Hyundai is not one. I had Acura 3.2 TL it’s good car but my VW more enjoyable and fun to drive.
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Replying to: volkov (Jan 16, 2008 5:28 pm) XC90 $60k-$80k Cdn Toureg - $60k-$90k Cdn (ridiculous) XC 70 $50k-$60k Cdn MKX - $50k Pilot $45k and up RX 350 $55k and up You won't get much luxury for $40k Cdn. It won't even get you a FS Ltd like I have. But the incentives are coming out and some manufacturers are reducing prices - reluctantly and slowly. Consumer car imports from US at all time high in 2007. |
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Replying to: vad1819 (Jan 16, 2008 7:44 pm) When I was looking, I drove both the VC and the Acadia and I can't say I remember the Acadia distinguishing itself as a better driving vehicle in the least. They were both a bit bland for my possibly non-mainstream preferences, but you make the VC sound like a tractor. Personally, I am not prepared to put down my money for a Hyundai mainly due to my uncertainty about their future resale value...a priority in my decision making process and one of the main reasons I ultimately passed on the CX-9. If a person instead holds perceived value as a priority, I can certainly see the VC as a strong choice. It is a very nicely finished vehicle...although in my opinion the comparisons to Lexus are a bit much. |
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Those who automatically dismiss the Veracruz probably fall into one of two categories: * they haven't sat inside one yet (and may not be willing to) * they have a personal bias against Korean cars I do think there are some legitimate concerns, however: * residual values * a negative public perception that lags behind reality Korean cars have improved dramatically, indeed many Hyundais ace reliability tests from multiple sources. Problem is, they earned a bad reputation with their earlier efforts and the public hasn't forgotten that yet. It takes a long time to overcome that bad reputation. If you're open minded enough, I challenge you to sit inside a Veracruz Limited, then come back here and share your impressions. Edit: I just looked, the local dealer has 25 VCs in stock and the most expensive one is $33.7k USD. That's a loaded LTD model with AWD. So the $40k thing is only in Canada, you won't see that in the US.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 17, 2008 7:58 am) I work next to a Hyundai dealer. I have not sat in one, but, only peered through the window into one. I find the outside looks to be kind of weird, especially the front end. I know many say it resembles the Lexus RX, but, I really don't see it. My mother owns a Lexus RX, and I like the exterior much better then the interior. The build quality is great, however, the interior is nothing overly special. I do like the wood accents, though. About the VC, I guess I should just sit in one. I'm sure the boys next door won't mind!
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jan 17, 2008 8:44 am) I also like the red/brown color option for the leather. It wouldn't work on a CX9, which is too sporty for cushy seats like that. |
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Replying to: vad1819 (Jan 16, 2008 7:44 pm) These are all big, heavy people haulers. If you want great handling, look elsewhere.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 17, 2008 7:58 am) Actually when you price one loaded on the Hyundai site the highest you can go is $38,195 after freight charges. If they allowed you to get the DVD and the Navi from the factory together then you could raise that about another $1000 (the DVD option is $1,500 but it and the Navi both come with the same stereo upgrade so $1k is my guess at the price of the DVD alone since you obviously can't get the stereo twice). Still not $40k but pretty darn close. On another note, when you get the Navi or DVD, $1,750 and $1,500 respectively, you also get their "Infinity® Logic 7® surround sound audio with 605 watt amp" stereo upgrade. The DVD isn't necessarily a bargain with that but the Navi sure is. Most Navis from other mfrs cost roughly $2k and don't come with stereo upgrades. How good is their Navi I guess is the real question.  Strangely roof cross rails are a $205 accessory and not on the factory options list. $205? Ouch! 
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