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What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: Pilot/ Lincoln Flex [chuckhoy] by baggs32
Jan 16, 2008 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: chuckhoy (Jan 16, 2008 6:14 am)

I think the biggest question is "how many people do you want to seat?" Once you answer that, you options become much more narrowed.
 
Well of course they would, but you have to be hard set on that number of seats. We use our 3rd row maybe once or twice a year. Do we want our next vehicle to have a 3rd row? You bet. But we can also live without it if the price is right or we can find something a bit smaller with a reasonable amount of cargo space behind the second row. With 2 small boys we don't need the extra seats, but we do need the extra cargo space. That's a big reason why the Escape is no longer in our garage. It was just too small for all the crap we had to haul around.
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Re: Price [bobw3] by cjsb
Jan 16, 2008 (3:05 pm)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Jan 15, 2008 3:37 pm)

Note: Canadian. Answers include taxes, freight, etc. Out the door prices.
 
Fundamental Criteria: Must have three rows.
 
$25K - Mazda 5 (not a CUV)
$30K - Santa Fe
$35K - Veracruz
$40K - Veracruz
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price/size by scottinky
Jan 16, 2008 (3:23 pm)
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if your willing to eat the gas mileage, of which you really aren't saving
that much over a full size SUV, you can swipe a Nissan Armada SE for cheaper
than a Veracruz, and once you drive it/ride in it, there is no going back to small.
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Re: Price [cjsb] by vad1819
Jan 16, 2008 (3:43 pm)
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Replying to: cjsb (Jan 16, 2008 3:05 pm)

So, you're willing pay 40 grand for Korean car. It's insane. Also, Veracruz better than MDX or Q7 or Buick or R-class Mercedes ? Explain. It can be better than RX but the only because seat 7 in Veracruz.
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Re: Price [vad1819] by volkov
Jan 16, 2008 (5:28 pm)
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Replying to: vad1819 (Jan 16, 2008 3:43 pm)

Canadian!
We get ripped off up here.
MDX, Q7 $55k stripped -$70k
Buick $45-55
R-class $65 OTD spec'd as I wanted.
$40k for a vehicle not say bad in that situation. Plus, last I checked, Hyundai had better overall reliability than GM.
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Re: price/size [scottinky] by cjsb
Jan 16, 2008 (6:51 pm)
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Replying to: scottinky (Jan 16, 2008 3:23 pm)

Not only have I driven the Armada, one of my closest friends who lives in California owns one. I'd take the VC without hesitation. Small? Apparently you aren't familiar with the vehicle. When did 4400lbs, 191 inches and more hip and shoulder room than a CX9 translate into small?
 
And what's up with the "Korean" thing? (no longer directed at Scott) I don't give a damn where a car company is headquartered. Hyundai has been scoring quality and reliability awards left, right and centre lately. Anybody a trader? Best time to buy is before the folks who haven't caught on, catch on.
 
Over the past 20 years I have owned Audi, BMW 5 Series (hell, my Dad's German and my Uncle in Texas owns a garage that specializes in Audi/BMW/Merc/Porsche/Volks), Chev, Chrysler, Ford, Honda, Oldsmobile, Pontiac. Each of those for at least two years.
 
The VC does not cost $40K. But if that was my price threshold, I still buy it. What can I say? I spent eight months doing my due dilligence and this vehicle beat the Acadia/Outlook, CX9, Acura (for the money). I would have spent $50K if the vehicle that warranted that represented the best value of all those I shopped. In the end, the VC was a run away winner.
 
Like I say, I don't care who makes it. Just make it good, give me some history to show you know what you are doing and let me have it for a better price than anything comparable. Done deal.
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Re: Price [vad1819] by cjsb
Jan 16, 2008 (7:03 pm)
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Replying to: vad1819 (Jan 16, 2008 3:43 pm)

If you can find me a Q7, Enclave, R-Class or MDX out the door for less than 40K, email me and I'll send you my phone number.
 
For reference, that means a price of $35K before tax.
 
I shopped the Q7, Enclave and MDX. Drove them all and secured three quotes each. Not the R. All considerably more expensive than the VC. So I don't see where you are headed.
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Re: Price [volkov] by cjsb
Jan 16, 2008 (7:14 pm)
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Replying to: volkov (Jan 16, 2008 5:28 pm)

Agreed...to some extent. Particularly bad on luxury vehicles.
 
Things have balanced out a bit more of late.
 
We paid just a touch more for our VC in Canada than we would have had we bought in the States. That's because Hyundai was proactive in addressing the currency swing with a $5500 rebate to keep buyers in Canada.
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Re: price/size [cjsb] by vad1819
Jan 16, 2008 (7:44 pm)
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Replying to: cjsb (Jan 16, 2008 6:51 pm)

"The VC does not cost $40K. But if that was my price threshold, I still buy it."
 
Oh, well when you have 40K to spend and you're buying VC it's sad story, so for you have no difference what to drive BMW or Hyudai or KIA. I think you don't have idea what good car mean. I don't compare reliability of these vehicle, I compare here driving experience, style, quality of materials. I have been caught by one review, that VC better than RX. So went and test drove the vehicle. That vehicle doesn't feel a road at all, slow reaction for out put your steering wheel, doesn't hold a road.
By the way all Hyundai vehicle have a same problem, I have drove them all. I have travel a lot, so I rent different vehicles. I have even changed rent car company to get away from Hyundai. I can add Kia to same category vehicles - NO FEEL a ROAD.
Any way, they sell a lot cars (sad story) and for a lot people who don't care what to drive and have a cheapest ride, that a good choice.
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Re: price/size [vad1819] by thegraduate
Jan 16, 2008 (9:30 pm)
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Replying to: vad1819 (Jan 16, 2008 7:44 pm)

Any way, they sell a lot cars (sad story) and for a lot people who don't care what to drive and have a cheapest ride, that a good choice.
 
You're trying to make an insult sound nice. It doesn't work.
 
It's like going up to someone and saying "New haircut? Well, as long as YOU like it..."
 
To each his own in this category, vad.
 
To say someone picking choice A or B is a "sad story" and that car A or B is only for people who want the cheapest drive and who don't care about what they spent their money for, well, that's pitiful, disgraceful, and childish.

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