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GMC Acadia, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV
#4621 of 7355 Re: Curious about the popular crossovers [thegraduate]
Dec 31, 2007 (9:14 am)
2.) Escape/Tribute (Popular, but not too carlike)
I have lots of driving experience in all three. I have not driven the new RAV, but I have driven the new Escape/Tribute and CR-V. I think the newer Escape / Tributes have a nicer, car like ride then they did before, however, I like the previous generation much better, especially the V6 models. Many don't know this, but the Escape / Tributes have a really good repair record, minus the first year (2001). We all know Toyotas and Hondas track record for these vehicles.
#4622 of 7355 Re: Curious about the popular crossovers [thegraduate]
Dec 31, 2007 (9:24 am)
Pilto is a truck to me. IMO it's the real meaning of car based truck.
#4623 of 7355 Re: Edmunds rated....... [flufflebug]
Dec 31, 2007 (9:27 am)
Are you referring to the front row passenger seat?
I dodn't write that statement you qutoed from my post. I quoted it from someone else. I actually don't know, and for Ford's sake, I hope you are right, because that's a dumb mistake not to make that standard.
#4624 of 7355 Re: Edmunds rated....... [vad1819]
Dec 31, 2007 (9:31 am)
I've never had anyDVD player, although we have three kids. The longs trips we had taken each 2-3 month about 200-300 miles, and kid never scream or something like that, so I don't see why do u need DVD player in car. But this discussion for other thread.
Because you have never experienced one, but your right- this is a topic for another thread.
#4625 of 7355 Re: Curious about the popular crossovers [albook]
Dec 31, 2007 (9:54 am)
Pilto is a truck to me. IMO it's the real meaning of car based truck.
I will disagree. It has independent suspension and is made of unibody construction. It looks more like a truck because if its boxy shape.
If anything, the Ridgeline would be car-based pick-up. It's really not a true truck at all.
#4626 of 7355 Re: Edmunds rated....... [vad1819]
Dec 31, 2007 (3:02 pm)
I originally thought the Navigation and Family Entertainment System (FES) with DVD were both a waste of money. But I looked into it more and decided to order them for the following reasons:
A. The auto navigation system software and hardware seems to always be a couple years behind the portable market, in terms of features, ease of use, number of waypoints and addresses stored, etc....
B. An excellent portable system can be purchased under $1000 (I have three portable Garmins for car and biking use), whereas the automobile systems cost nearly $2000. (The Navigation on my Taurus-X is costing me $1700)
C. A portable unit can be linked via USB into your home computer to more conveniently edit waypoints and routes.
A. Although GPS evolution is rapid, the units installed in cars are still very functional for the intended uses,. All GPS go out of date and require updates. Fortunately, all systems have software upgrades, including built-in systems, especially important considering their lifetime. So the built-in features will tend to track the portable evolution in capability with a little lag.
B. The navigation system built into a car has the largest screen for navigation, making it easier to navigate, find addresses, phone numbers and other items.
C. The large navigation screen is nicely used by the car manufacturers for all other functions, such as radio, satellite, numerous settings for balance, bass, fade, identifying songs, and so on. The touch screen soft keys can provide a much more usable interface with less hard keys needed on the car panel.
D. When used with Ford/Microsoft Sync, the Nav screen is nicely integrated. You can access your phone book and it provides a large screen visual confirmation when used with voice control. You can read song lists off your iPod or MP3 player using this screen.
E. Overall, the car navigation system is a much nicer system than portable GPS for it's intended purpose in terms of size, electronic integration, voice control and menu integration with Sync. It fits nicer into the car without a lot of wires and suction cups. For me, it was worth the ~$800 more.
Family Entertainment System (FES) - DVD player
A. Kids should be doing other things, talking with family or each other, looking out, reading books, etc.. (Counter argument, they never do that anyway, with or without DVD available)
B. You can get a portable unit for the car at much lower cost. (My FES cost me $860 and you may be able to get a portable DVD player similar features such as wireless headphones and headrest screens for less, maybe half price. But the portable screens will be smaller.)
A. A DVD player is nice to pass time with movies on long boring trips across the desert or down long freeways we've often done on family trips in CA.
B. The player can be used to watch home videos taken on vacation, via the external inputs.
C. The kids in back can play their own separate music CD (not just DVD) on the FES, going to separate wireless headphones.
D. For me the biggest plus is the Audio integration. Sound can be cut off to speakers in back when the kids play a CD or DVD. It can go to one of two wireless headsets. Or each wireless headset can listen to the DVD or the other radio, satellite, or MP3 or USB music file channel up front, independently of the driver. That's right, people in the car can be listening to three different things at once, important with my kids having an age span from 5 to 17 years old. Also, the rear passengers can control (if allowed) the front system for radio and satellite and MP3 player (with SYNC). With MP3 taking over from CDs, the FES and SYNC work well together for future car value.
E. With the Sync system, the FES allows much more control and flexibilty in the audio and DVD systems. Everyone can control the other (front Nav screen can also control the rear DVD and audio, and the rear remote control can also control the front systems).
The point is that the Navigation is not just a GPS, its a big control screen with a lot more system controls integrated.
Similarly, the FES is not just a DVD player, it really is an Family Entertainment System with lots of various listening and playing options and controls, which 95% of the time will be used very practically for audio, not movies.
#4627 of 7355 Re: Curious about the popular crossovers [vad1819]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Dec 31, 2007 (3:14 pm)
We have small, medium and large sedans, same for SUV's.
We could try that ... but Pat may just be better at organizing stuff. With all the overlap, I suspect we'd have three discussions that would mirror each other.
#4628 of 7355 Best of '07
Dec 31, 2007 (4:10 pm)
I think we should all vote for our favorite CUV, and maybe a runner up.
My vote for #1:
Why- No other vehicle combines this much space and comfort. Ride is smooth, and for an almost 5000lbs vehicle, is much quicker and handles smaller than expected. (I actually like the Acadia better, but the outlook is 2grand cheaper, making it better priced than some of it's smaller competitors). Homerun for GM.
Why- does a pretty good jpob of combining sport with utility for a good family vehicle. A step up for Mazda. (I debated choosing this over the Taurus X, but whille it gives more utility, the CX-9 gives a larger dose of fun).
Maybe an editor could total up the votes, and we could see who the forum favors.
#4629 of 7355 Re: Curious about the popular crossovers [bobw3]
Dec 31, 2007 (4:43 pm)
Maybe you should distinguish between CUV that can hold 7 adults versus those that can only hold 5.
FWIW - Strongly agree
#4630 of 7355 Re: Best of '07 [albook]
Dec 31, 2007 (5:09 pm)
I can agree with that:
This is my top five 7 pass. CUV
1. Outlook (Acadia entry level look better from the rear, has 4 exhaust pipes, but couple grand difference can make better choice for entry level customer)
2. Mazda CX-9- no doubt about.
3. Hightlander ( I choose over TX for only one reason: Today, on parking lot someone parked TX right beside my Acadia. I'm looked a close again and found myself on thought this car not much different , than any other wagon. So ,it seats low on road and makes more like a sedan/wagon.)
5. Pilot. (Good car, but boxier design)