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#3342 of 7326 Re: - [ateixeira] by baggs32

Sep 25, 2007 (9:33 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 25, 2007 8:51 am)
You know the CX9 uses a Ford engine, basically, right? It's the 3.5l Duratec. The Ford Taurus X and Edge use the same engine, essentially.
 
Actually juice starting in 2008 the CX-9, and most likely the '09 Mazda6, get the new Mazda tuned 3.7L Duratec. It makes 273 HP and 270 ft-lbs in the CX-9 which is class leading now IIRC. Also IIRC, the block and other parts of that engine are still made here by Ford and shipped over to Japan where Mazda adds their heads and other parts.

#3343 of 7326 Re: - [baggs32] by bobw3

Sep 25, 2007 (9:40 am)

Replying to: baggs32 (Sep 25, 2007 9:33 am)
Isn't the tranny for the lambdas, Edge & TaurusX all the same too?

#3344 of 7326 Re: - [bobw3] by baggs32

Sep 25, 2007 (9:58 am)

Replying to: bobw3 (Sep 25, 2007 9:40 am)
Isn't the tranny for the lambdas, Edge & TaurusX all the same too?
 
Yes and no. Yes they are the same basic design because Ford and GM partnered to develop it. However, both mfrs use different software and gear tuning to meet their customer's demands. Everything I've read so far shows early versions being somewhat in need of better tuning, but I haven't seen anything bad about them lately so the bugs may all be worked out. The good news with that is the early versions can be brought up to speed with a simple PCM flash at your dealer in most cases.
 
FWIW the CX-9 uses a Jatco tranny IIRC.

#3345 of 7326 Re: - [baggs32] by zman3

Sep 25, 2007 (11:54 am)

Replying to: baggs32 (Sep 25, 2007 9:58 am)
The good news with that is the early versions can be brought up to speed with a simple PCM flash at your dealer in most cases.
 
I have an 08 Enclave and I can tell you the new transmission program is quite good. I personally would still prefer a downshift with less throttle input but it is nothing like the lags seen in previous versions of the program.

#3346 of 7326 Re: - [baggs32] by ateixeira

Sep 25, 2007 (12:14 pm)

Replying to: baggs32 (Sep 25, 2007 9:33 am)
Good point - he did say 2008.
 
The local dealer still has 2007s. Actually, they have both, a mix of 2007s as well as a few new 2008s that just arrived.

#3347 of 7326 - by rhodius

Sep 25, 2007 (1:37 pm)

Replying to: baggs32 (Sep 25, 2007 9:33 am)
Yes, starting in 2008, it's 3.7L. Also CX-9 has always used 6 speed sweet Aisin transmission. This one is very smooth, it will keep you at 6 (most fuel efficient) but when I step on it, it kicks down a notch or two and the CUV just "flies". Granted it's no M3 acceleration, but for a 4500lbs vehicle it's pretty good, the 2008 updated HP and torque help a bit.

#3348 of 7326 Re: - [rhodius] by ateixeira

Sep 25, 2007 (4:19 pm)

Replying to: rhodius (Sep 25, 2007 1:37 pm)
Sounds good, congrats. What color? Options?
 
What has surprised you about it since the purchase?

#3349 of 7326 Re: - [ateixeira] by baggs32

Sep 25, 2007 (5:23 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 25, 2007 12:14 pm)
Good point - he did say 2008.
 
Not a lot of people noticed the change. Mazda has been pretty quiet about it so far. Maybe because they do still have some '07s to move? I for one would like to see the new test numbers as a few Fords are rumored to get the Duratec37 in the near future. Read, Mustang, F-150, and Explorer. Then there's the DI version for a Lincoln or two which, depending what you read, puts out over 300 HP.
 
A little OT there but I felt it was worth noting where this motor came from all of a sudden.

#3350 of 7326 Re: - [baggs32] by chuckhoy

Sep 26, 2007 (6:15 am)

Replying to: baggs32 (Sep 25, 2007 9:33 am)
Actually juice starting in 2008 the CX-9, and most likely the '09 Mazda6, get the new Mazda tuned 3.7L Duratec. It makes 273 HP and 270 ft-lbs in the CX-9 which is class leading now IIRC.
 
My 07 Outlook is 275 HP. Not much of a difference. The CX-9 would be quicker due to less weight.

#3351 of 7326 Re: - [baggs32] by ateixeira

Sep 26, 2007 (6:30 am)

Replying to: baggs32 (Sep 25, 2007 5:23 pm)
Yeah, my local dealer still has 2007s, so they're hush about it until they clear those out.
 
GM and UAW reached a tentative agreement, and UAW will vote on it shortly. I predict it will pass and the strike will end today.

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