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#21 of 7126 Re: Acadia size [nxs138] by coldcranker Jan 26, 2007 (10:58 am)
Replying to: nxs138 (Jan 26, 2007 6:41 am) The Freestyle was supposed to be freshened up and converted to a Mercury, so I've heard. I don't know what the truth really is. I've also heard it will be back for '08 with the bigger 3.5L V6. Only Ford seems to know what's going to happen.
#22 of 7126 New crossover by albook Jan 26, 2007 (11:12 am)
All you guys looking for alternative crossovers look at the new chrysler crossover. It should compete with the Acaida/ CX-9 and is codenamed "JC49." Replies to this message: arumage (Jan 26, 2007 2:46 pm) laker34 (Feb 02, 2007 10:55 am)
#23 of 7126 Re: New crossover [albook] by arumage Jan 26, 2007 (2:46 pm)
Replying to: albook (Jan 26, 2007 11:12 am) It's definitely smaller by the look of it, but it is supposed to be quite a bit cheaper as well.
#24 of 7126 Re: New Freestyle [albook] by arumage Jan 26, 2007 (2:54 pm)
Replying to: albook (Jan 26, 2007 10:55 am) I actually like the '08 Freestyle front better than the old one, but since it's just a freshen up, they can't really change the greenhouse. One review of the Acadia said that it had the engine had to kick into a lower gear quite a bit to move the heft, but that it wasn't terrible about it. I know that's one thing I don't like about my Camry 4-cyl.
#25 of 7126 My thoughts... by sranger Jan 26, 2007 (3:05 pm)
Well,   I will be getting a new company vehicle some time this year or next. It has to be a SUV type to haul equipment and and at least 5 adults. ( Basically a minivan that I would be caught dead driving ) It has to tow at least 3500lb. Handle reasonable, get at least 20mph with a 50/50 HWY/CITY. 6 CD in MP3 player. Aux MP3 input. Has to be comfortable for me 6'-4" 230lb...   So far Here is my List of vehicles that I have ruled out:   Mazda CX-7 - No towing capacity... Honda Pilot - Can't stand the looks... Ford Edge - Horrable Brakes. Ford FreeStyle - Can't stand the looks and hate the small foot well on the driver and passenger side. ( I guess I have big feet ) Acadia + Encalve - I WILL NEVER OWN ANOTHER GM PRODUCT... BMW X5 - Not worth the price... Lexus RX330 - Not worth the price... Toyota Forunner - Not enough shoulder room. Just felt cramped... Exployer/Expedition - Poor gas milage... Horrific Re-sale vale. Toyota Rav4 - Toyota simply will not build a Limited with the 3500lb towing package, leather heated seats and AWD??? Also, I Hate the side opening door.   Still in the running:   CX-9 - Will wait to see if it's brake are good or bad since it is loosly based on the same platform as the edge. I love the interior. High demand will probably make it too expensive for a while. I'll wait until the new wears off to purchase. Outlook - Looks good so far... BMW X3 - Really like it, it is fun to drive, but expensive and a little small.. 2008 Hylander - Looks like it will be built on the Avalon platform with a 269hp V6 + 6 Speed trans... I Will wait to see it before making a purchase...   So far the CX-9 is at the top of the list, but I suspect that the new Hylander will be the winner.... Replies to this message: kjf18 (Jan 26, 2007 3:40 pm) arumage (Jan 26, 2007 4:06 pm) coldcranker (Jan 26, 2007 4:38 pm)
#26 of 7126 Re: My thoughts... [sranger] by kjf18 Jan 26, 2007 (3:40 pm)
Replying to: sranger (Jan 26, 2007 3:05 pm) So you'll consider the Outlook but not the Acadia? Is it a GMC/Buick service kind of thing? Just curious.   Kelly
#27 of 7126 Re: My thoughts... [sranger] by arumage Jan 26, 2007 (4:06 pm)
Replying to: sranger (Jan 26, 2007 3:05 pm) What about a Hyundai Veracruz? It meets all your criteria. The CX-9 will have different brakes. Most of the car aside of the engine block and chassis is not used by Ford. The engine block is the same, but it has Mazda specific goodies and is assembled in Japan. The Outlook was a GM product the last time I looked. Expect to be on a waiting list for a Highlander.
#28 of 7126 Re: My thoughts... [sranger] by coldcranker Jan 26, 2007 (4:38 pm)
Replying to: sranger (Jan 26, 2007 3:05 pm) "Acadia + Encalve - I WILL NEVER OWN ANOTHER GM PRODUCT..."   The Saturn Outlook is 100% GM, too. Remember there are a lot of engineers at the various GM divisions and suppliers, and the Outlook/Acadia look to be great vehicles.
#29 of 7126 Re: Ford Freestyle [arumage] by coldcranker Jan 26, 2007 (4:44 pm)
Replying to: arumage (Jan 25, 2007 1:33 pm) Freestyle underpowered? People say it so much it might someday make it true..... The reality is that 8.5 seconds 0-60 times of the Freestyle shows plenty of power. There are slower and faster cars/trucks out there. If a vehicle is in the middle of the pack going 0-60, then you can say it has "average" power, not underpowered. Porsche actually designed the sweet, 60-degree V-angle, DOHC, all-aluminum, Freestyle 3.0L engine that Ford then bought the design rights to. Yes, Porsche. I say more MPG, less acceleration. The Freestyle is a good compromise, as I get 27 MPG regularly in mine in mixed driving with average, not underpowered, acceleration. It might be that people look at the 203 hp figure on the 3.0L and think the automatic tranny is as wastefull as trannies of the past, when the CVT actually puts the power to the ground using optimal profiles and doesn't waste power through excessive heat build-up like conventional torque-convertor automatics do. Replies to this message: arumage (Jan 26, 2007 5:10 pm) coldcranker (Jan 26, 2007 5:39 pm) guyf (Jan 26, 2007 6:20 pm) bahamamichael (Jul 13, 2007 3:15 pm) and 7 more... explorerx4 (Jan 26, 2007 7:29 pm)
#30 of 7126 Re: Ford Freestyle [coldcranker] by arumage Jan 26, 2007 (5:10 pm)
Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 26, 2007 4:44 pm) The fact remains that the new crossovers are doing sub-8 (or just over) second runs without a marginal loss of fuel economy with added room(Acadia is only 1 mpg behind). It is a shame that the CVT can't handle the 3.5L V6. It might make 0-60 in 7.5 seconds (like the 2007 Pacifica, not that I'm advocating the Pacifica's 16/24 mpg rating). Not all people are as educated about cars as we forum-dwellers are. A 60 hp difference will be a much bigger deal to the less educated consumer. The problem with the Freestyle is that it doesn't have anything that just reaches out and grabs the consumer. It disappears in a croud. That doesn't mean it's any less of a good vehicle. Replies to this message: coldcranker (Jan 26, 2007 5:39 pm) guyf (Jan 26, 2007 6:20 pm) bahamamichael (Jul 13, 2007 3:15 pm) ateixeira (Jul 16, 2007 12:00 pm) and 5 more... chuckhoy (Jul 16, 2007 12:58 pm) explorerx4 (Jan 26, 2007 7:29 pm)

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