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What is this discussion about? GMC Acadia, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Taurus X, Toyota RAV4, Nissan Rogue, Honda Accord Crosstour, Dodge Journey, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, SUV


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Re: Freestyle is DOA [hardhawk] by rick2456
Jan 31, 2007 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: hardhawk (Jan 26, 2007 6:11 am)

Apparently the FS won a reprieve with Ford according to this article.
 
http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060125/FREE/60123015/1024/Lates- tNews
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Re: Freestyle is DOA [rick2456] by hardhawk
Jan 31, 2007 (7:18 am)
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Replying to: rick2456 (Jan 31, 2007 7:10 am)

You are correct. Not only a reprieve, but an upgrade as well!
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continuous cargo area surface by jrcosmo
Jan 31, 2007 (11:44 am)
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I'm looking for CUV that has continuous surface in cargo area when 2nd and 3rd rows folded flat (top of 3rd row butt up flush against back of 2nd so dogs' legs and other items don't fall down in). CX-9 does not. Outlook does. Who knows about others? I've had a wagon but want something larger. Thanks.
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Re: Tough competition: CX9, GM's, Vera., Pilot, Freestyle [arumage] by coldcranker
Jan 31, 2007 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: arumage (Jan 31, 2007 6:22 am)

" 3. competitive nimble handling You haven't driven a CX-9 yet, have you?"
 
I've heard testers say the ride is stiff in the CX9 (and the Murano), so the Freestyle really has the best handling with reasonably low spring rates for comfort.
 
Freestyle has weaknesses, but overall its still the leader.
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Re: Tough competition: CX9, GM's, Vera., Pilot, Freestyle [coldcranker] by nxs138
Jan 31, 2007 (12:23 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 31, 2007 11:45 am)

Freestyle has weaknesses, but overall its still the leader.
 
Well the current Freestyle has no stability control, which is a must for the next car I buy--stability control does make a huge difference if you start fishtailing. So that does not make it a leader in my book, safety-wise.
 
I wouldn't jump to the Freestyle-is-the-leader position quite yet: first, we really need feedback from the Veracruz, which we don't have quite yet in the US. Second, although Car&Driver did like the Freestyle, they just recently tested the GMC Acadia and had lots more praise for it in terms of handling, steering feel, and supple ride.
 
So who's the "leader"? I can't tell, since I haven't driven any of these new CUVs, and that's really what it comes down to: how much you like it when you drive it. All I know is that the new upcoming Freestyle looks much nicer, mostly due to the new headlights and grille, and I might actually go and take a spin in it.
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Re: continuous cargo area surface [jrcosmo] by arumage
Jan 31, 2007 (12:35 pm)
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Replying to: jrcosmo (Jan 31, 2007 11:44 am)


 
It looks like the Veracruz does from the look of this picture someone took at the Detroit Auto Show.
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Re: Tough competition: CX9, GM's, Vera., Pilot, Freestyle [coldcranker] by wlbrown9
Jan 31, 2007 (1:20 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 31, 2007 11:45 am)

"Freestyle has weaknesses, but overall its still the leader"
 
Looked around and according to JD Power the Freestyle is 3rd in sales with the leader being the Highlander. Highlander sold about double the volume of the Freestyle. I think the Freestyle might be okay, but there are better choices out there and many buyers tend to agree. I think Ford made a good effort, but due to smaller engine and other factors, just not enough folks want them. With the Outlook and Acadia joining the mix of crossovers, I don't think the Freestyle will make any gains. Where they stand a chance is for folks that need more passenger room and don't want to spend $30K or more...those will to spend a little more easily bypass the Freestyle.
 
My comparison of the Envoy XL (yes 2006 was the last year) noted one of the vehicles the Freestyle competed against. Freestyle had a slight advantage pricewise and MPG, but lost out on performance and room. The Envoy XL is quite a bit larger in cargo area than the Freestyle so I would not expect the second and 3-rd row seating to be any better regardless of the measurements. I'm about 6'1" & 200 lbs and have ridden for 2+ hours in the 3rd row with comfort. Not many other 3 row CUVs/SUVs are that roomy. I expect the Outlook/Acadia to be okay back there.
 
Anyway, I've discussed the Freestyle enough. If it can compete with a refresh and power upgrade, sales figures will show that.
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Freestyle? by eaglepilot
Jan 31, 2007 (2:22 pm)
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Anyone who calls the Freestyle a leader doesn't get it. Look at Consumer Reports reliability scores -- even though they go back only two years, they already show impending problems. Exactly what you would expect from a Ford. Sure, you save a few bucks up front, only to pay it back later in repairs.
 
Plus, there's the looming question of whether the manufacturer is even going to be in business throughout the car's life...
 
Chris
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Junkstyle by 07xle
Jan 31, 2007 (2:37 pm)
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Freestyle is the leader....to the junkyard.
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Consumer Reports by hardhawk
Jan 31, 2007 (2:45 pm)
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Replying to: eaglepilot (Jan 31, 2007 2:22 pm)

Consumer Reports isn't exactly the class leader in integrity, accuracy, or even looking at vehicles with any sort of enthusiast's viewpoint. They like appliance cars and their latest fiasco on the car seats shows they are not quite as "reliable" as they need to be. I think it is the dreaded full black circle for them!

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