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#110 of 7147 My thoughts on Freestyle by albook Jan 30, 2007 (4:46 pm)
You didn't mention the FreeStyle. It has great headroom Yeah, but legroom isn't that great. Here's my thing on Freestyle pricing. it will hit 35-36 grand loaded. But models do go for pretty low. That's becasue 27-30g is all ppl wanna pay for this vehichle. It lacks some of todays hot features, as well as styling, and power. interior quality inside isn't great. Ford's got more to do than just a little face lift, some more power, and a little interior upgrade to keep up with CX-9 cousin and Vera Cruz and Acadia. About keyless VeraCruz thing-Hyundai doesn't offer remote start like the outlook does. Looking at those photos, third row space in Vera Cruz doesn't look great. But I'll see in Chicago. Someone said that what you should define CUV by is that you can't put it in one category. but what I say is that it should be defined as a wanna be vehichle. A wanna be SUV that combines all the best qualities of an SUV, van, and sedan(sport-luxury). At least that's what the most capabe ones are. Then you see the Murano/ Edge. THey are great, but sporty 5door cars with ground clearance. I hope someone with find spyshots of 08 Pilot and Highlander(Is it true this will be in Chicago?).
#111 of 7147 Re: A dark horse [music287] by guyf Jan 30, 2007 (4:50 pm)
Replying to: music287 (Jan 30, 2007 6:12 am) I rented a Pacifica for a business outing once. My daugther tried the 3rd row and there was a rumbling back there that would make her sick. No problem in our XC90 3rd row. Replies to this message: explorerx4 (Jan 30, 2007 5:52 pm) arumage (Jan 30, 2007 6:07 pm)
#112 of 7147 Re: Dark Horse [bobw3] by fordwrench Jan 30, 2007 (4:53 pm)
Replying to: bobw3 (Jan 30, 2007 3:10 pm) I don't know but the black interior in my Limited is very classy, much better than previous fords, has the soft touch everybody wants and is very functional. I came out of an explorer and an Odyssey before that and it is the best all around for my family anyway. Replies to this message: explorerx4 (Jan 30, 2007 6:51 pm) fordwrench (Jan 31, 2007 5:30 pm)
#113 of 7147 Re: A dark horse [guyf] by explorerx4 Jan 30, 2007 (5:52 pm)
Replying to: guyf (Jan 30, 2007 4:50 pm) i was wrong, a 3rd row is available in a pacifica.
#114 of 7147 Re: A dark horse [guyf] by arumage Jan 30, 2007 (6:07 pm)
Replying to: guyf (Jan 30, 2007 4:50 pm) I didn't hear any rumbling when I rode in the back, but headroom was awful. I know it's listed as having the same headroom as the CX-9, but that's totally wrong. Although the headroom is not where I'd like it to be in the CX-9, it most certainly is better than the Pacifica. My wife is 5'7" and her head touched the ceiling in the Pacifica.
#115 of 7147 Re: Dark Horse [fordwrench] by explorerx4 Jan 30, 2007 (6:51 pm)
Replying to: fordwrench (Jan 30, 2007 4:53 pm) what year was your explorer? i have an '02 with v8 and towing package. i really load it up when going on vacation. last summer 5 people, cargo box on top, hitch mounted bike rack with 4 bicycles out back. stuff under all the seats, covering up the rear window, no room for feet in the second row, only one person could fit in the 3rd row. beverly hillbilly's at it's best. i'm just wondering if the freestyle is up to that kind of load? Replies to this message: fordwrench (Jan 31, 2007 5:30 pm)
#116 of 7147 Re: Dark Horse [baggs32] by coldcranker Jan 30, 2007 (7:31 pm)
Replying to: baggs32 (Jan 30, 2007 2:19 pm) "They did. It's called the XC90. Same platform anyway. "   Actually, the Freestyle is only "based" on the XC90, since the XC90 uses boron steel in the roof and an aluminum subframe for the rear suspension, something the Freestyle uses regular steel for.
#117 of 7147 Tough competition: CX9, GM's, Vera., Pilot, Freestyle by coldcranker Jan 30, 2007 (7:45 pm)
All very good in this overall comparison. Freestyle still gets my vote, because its best in:   1. fuel economy   2. crash ratings   3. competitive nimble handling   4. CVT is the best tranny here -- optimal selection of drive ratios at all times. But the Freestyle lacks stability control (anti-skid intervention), so its a tough choice. Freestyle, and others in this group, are probably short of enough boron steel or aluminum structurally efficient parts, as Mitsubishi has managed to include in the Outlander's roof, for example, at a reasonable price. Replies to this message: arumage (Jan 31, 2007 6:22 am) coldcranker (Jan 31, 2007 11:45 am) nxs138 (Jan 31, 2007 12:23 pm) and 3 more... wlbrown9 (Jan 31, 2007 1:20 pm) hardhawk (Jan 31, 2007 6:32 am)
#118 of 7147 Re: Tough competition: CX9, GM's, Vera., Pilot, Freestyle [coldcranker] by arumage Jan 31, 2007 (6:22 am)
Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 30, 2007 7:45 pm) 1. fuel economy This is true by 2/1   2. crash ratings It's the only one besides the Pilot to be tested yet so we don't know if it will remain true.   3. competitive nimble handling You haven't driven a CX-9 yet, have you?   4. CVT is the best tranny here It's also the cause for the low towing rating, many shops don't know how to fix it, and it has a peak torque rating of 258 ft. lbs.   The Freestyle is a great entry in many ways especially fuel mileage, room, and actual purchase price, but unfortunately, it's looks, towing, and engine (bring on the 3.5L) are not up to par with other manufacturers. Ford needs to really push it in 2008 when atleast two of those are remedied. Replies to this message: coldcranker (Jan 31, 2007 11:45 am) nxs138 (Jan 31, 2007 12:23 pm) readerreader (Jan 31, 2007 9:22 pm) and 2 more... wlbrown9 (Jan 31, 2007 1:20 pm)
#119 of 7147 Re: Tough competition: CX9, GM's, Vera., Pilot, Freestyle [coldcranker] by hardhawk Jan 31, 2007 (6:32 am)
Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 30, 2007 7:45 pm) The 2008 Freestyle will have stability control.

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