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Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Nissan Titan, Toyota Tundra, Truck
Article comments for Comparison Test: 2007 Half-Ton Pickup Trucks - For almost two weeks, we drove all three trucks in a variety of terrain including urban crush, freeways and gravel roads. We loaded and unloaded them, poked and prodded them, and even dyno-tested them. (more)
#95 of 259 Ford should be worried?
Feb 10, 2007 (9:59 am)
Not sure who posted that, but why do you say this as far as truck sales are concerned? The Ford F-150 has been the best selling truck for how many years now? Everyone is just getting caught up in how powerful this new Toyota 5.7L engine is. I admit it sounds like a sweet engine coupled with a 6spd transmission. But let me remind you Ford will have it's new 6.2L engine available for the 2009 model year which means probably late 2008 availability. This should put them right back into the mix as far as horsepower and torque wars are concerned. Frankly I hope they make some engine tunning changes between now and then to get more power to the wheels on the current truck. The drive train loss is pretty bad on Ford trucks. I have a 2006 Supercrew FX4 with intake and engine tunning and am putting down 263hp/323tq to the wheels and it is a nice running truck. I sure wish Ford would have done this from the factory but they have there reasons which I don't have the time or desire to type out here. I would really be interested to know how much torque the new Tundra is putting down. I am not a hatter, I like all the big trucks out there, and I am a Toyota owner. I have a 4runner in the garage right now.
#96 of 259 Re: Ford should be worried? [soap]
Feb 10, 2007 (10:46 am)
The drive train loss is pretty bad on Ford trucks.
The triton engine spitting out spark plugs, and faulty cruise swithes burning peoples homes down isn't too great either.
#97 of 259 Tundra far more superior than Silverado
Feb 10, 2007 (10:48 am)
I currently own a 2007 Toyota Tundra Double Cab w/ the 5.7 L V8 in phantom gray, it is a great truck and I think it is far more superior than the silverado because
1. Gets way more power (381 vs. 367)
2. Better gas mileage (20 vs. 16)
3. Is alot bigger (76.4" height vs. 73.2")
4. Alot better looking (Silverado looks good on phots not in reality)
5. Plus better quality (Toyota is known for quality)
Plus Tundra also uses a 6 speed auto, not a 1990's 4 speed auto.
#98 of 259 Re: Ford should be worried? [soap]
Feb 10, 2007 (10:51 am)
Torque on the 5.7L is 401 at 3600 rpm
#99 of 259 Re: Tundra far more superior than Silverado [iqbaldhillon2]
Feb 10, 2007 (11:47 pm)
"FAR MORE SUPERIOR"
Well the majority of the press and I disagree with you.
I congratulate you on your new truck and will not knock it's flaws out of being nice.
#101 of 259 Re: Ford F450 vs 2007 GMC Sierra 3500HD [obyone]
Feb 12, 2007 (3:53 am)
Drove a 450 couple months ago. It is no fun driving it empty.
#102 of 259 Re: Ford should be worried? [gearhead1]
Feb 12, 2007 (5:24 am)
I thought we were talking about current model year trucks?? I guess not...
#103 of 259 Re: Ford should be worried? [dreasdad]
Feb 12, 2007 (5:30 am)
You right that 401 is very nice number, but I still don't see why Ford should worry? This is an unproven truck, unproven engine, unproven transmission, etc.. The only reason the Tundra is getting this much attention is the 5.7L engine, we saw this same thing when the Titan came out and it wasn't long after that when we saw all of the problems with the truck trickle in...
That being said, I sure wish my truck made the power or had a 5spd or 6spd transmission, like the Toyota, but Ford's new automatic and engine should be here by the end of 2008. I don't see Ford worrying just yet, since they still have the best selling Truck. I'd still by a Chevy Silverado way before a Tundra. I was on the fence on both of those trucks and only chose the Ford because I liked the interior better and got a better deal... This truck stickered for $39,000 and I paid $26,500 before TT&L. That's alot of work truck for the money...
#104 of 259 Re: Ford F450 vs 2007 GMC Sierra 3500HD [rockylee]
Feb 12, 2007 (6:36 am)
Probably because a vehicle that can tow 20 tons and has a payload in excess of 3 tons will have rear springs from hell and bounce your fillings loose on a rough road.