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#9 of 181 Re: 2009 Dodge Journey [albook]
by qbrozen
Aug 29, 2007 (10:07 am)
Is any of that based in fact? I'll answer for you. No. Well, OK, maybe 1 point ... read on.
This thing looks more like a minivan to me than the Pac. Neither, however, are minivans, thanks to no sliding door.
The interior of the Pac is far from a letdown. I have yet to have someone in ours who did NOT comment how luxurious it is. Have you driven the competition? We liked our Pilot, but it comes nowhere near the refinement of the Pac on interior comfort. I agree that the interior dimensions in terms of cabin height leave a bit to be desired. Its not as open and airy as many mid-sized utes. And maybe that was its downfall.
Quality? Well, its a matter of personal experience. We've had no problems to speak of. I'd say its been on par with our Pilot so far. Both had 1 electrical glitch each. And I believe 1 recall each.
#10 of 181 Re: 2009 Dodge Journey [qbrozen]
by albook
Aug 30, 2007 (1:37 pm)
The interior of the Pac is far from a letdown. I have yet to have someone in ours who did NOT comment how luxurious it is. Have you driven the competition? We liked our Pilot, but it comes nowhere near the refinement of the Pac on interior comfort. I agree that the interior dimensions in terms of cabin height leave a bit to be desired. Its not as open and airy as many mid-sized utes. And maybe that was its downfall.
Is any of that based in fact? Let me help you out- NO. The interior fails to meet todays standards (I'll giv ethat one a break- it is 5 years old) Both the interior and exterior are dated. Comfort is terrible. Chrysler should just discontinue it because they won't be selling very many more. Any one looking at this versus the Buick Enclave will turn their noses up after just sitting inisde this!
We can gripe all we want about if it was a failure or not, but there is one factor that determines it-sales. Thankyou!!!
That's why this new crossover has to be what the Pacifica wasn't- competitive.
#12 of 181 Re: 2009 Dodge Journey [albook]
by qbrozen
Sep 01, 2007 (6:29 pm)
Is any of that based in fact?
Ummmm... yes. Let me help you out by restating one important fact in my post: I have yet to have someone in ours who did NOT comment how luxurious it is.
Comfort is terrible.
That's obviously going to vary by person. As I said, we find it more comfortable than our Pilot. And after a 180 mile roundtrip in my Accord 2 days ago, I can tell you the Pac is much more comfortable than that, too (yeah, i know, not the same class, but those are the 2 commuter cars in my driveway right now, so its my comparison).
I'm not sure why you think this one is going to blow the Pac out of the water when we haven't even seen it yet. Yeah, maybe I shouldn't be so judgemental about it either, but so far, based on power, efficiency, and appearance, its not winning me over from my Pac.
Any one looking at this versus the Buick Enclave will turn their noses up after just sitting inisde this!
An Enclave equipped similarly to my Pac would cost me about $10k more than I paid. So, yeah, I sure HOPE it would be a step up!
#13 of 181 more of the same
by twain
Sep 09, 2007 (2:53 pm)
Chrysler badly needs some fuel efficient engines. We need diesels... bad. Put a 30-35mpg diesel in this thing and it might be a winner. As is, it's another loser.
Eagerly awaiting the Tiguan and its 2.0 TDI.
#14 of 181 Journey and such
by davert
Sep 10, 2007 (2:59 pm)
The Dodge Journey will almost certainly get a real world-class powertrain - by 2012. Unfortunately the new automated-manual transmissions with dual clutches won't be available until 2009, after the Journey starts up, and it'll go into minivans first or so we're told. Likewise the brand new, world class engines, the Phoenix engines, will start up around 2009. And then there are the reputed Chrysler diesels under way - you heard me! - but who knows when those will be made, if at all?
More 2009 Dodge Journey info and of course Espanol - el crossover Dodge Journey 2009.
#15 of 181 Re: Journey and such [davert]
by bobw3
Oct 06, 2007 (4:48 pm)
The interior doesn't look as spacious as my '05 Ford Freestyle, expecially in the 3rd and behind the 3rd cargo space, although I do like the innovations just as the flip seat storage area. The Journey also has the above dash storage area like my Freestyle.
Jan 28, 2008 (7:58 pm)
The Journey is now on the Dodge website, although not too much real detail like pricing or MPG ratings, etc. And no conversation here since October?
Journey's features seem to be pretty good; optional 7 seats, optional rear view camera, three engine choices, standard ESP, etc.. Any idea when it will hit the showrooms?
#17 of 181 Re: What happened? [microrepair]
by albook
Jan 29, 2008 (12:55 pm)
The Journey is now on the Dodge website, although not too much real detail like pricing or MPG ratings, etc. And no conversation here since October?
I'll tell you what happened. I guess interest levels are low. 16 messages? This forum's been up since I think January of last year. Maybe December '06!
I think people are turned off that it seems a bit too samll to compete with the likes of Highlander and Pilot.
#18 of 181 Re: 2009 Dodge Journey [qbrozen]
by albook
Jan 29, 2008 (12:58 pm)
i see another failure here. Underpowered and underefficient. I mean, how is it they have cut 15 hp from the Pacifica and get the same mileage? What could possibly be the appeal here that was not present in the Pacifica?
This may lose hp, but no doubt it's quicker han the Pacific- which has wieght issues. Probably the same size inside- despite being a foot shorter (I'm guestimating).