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2009 Dodge Journey Crossover

162 messages,  Last post on Mar 21, 2009 at 11:36 PM

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2009 Dodge/Chrysler Crossover (JC49) by albook
Jan 23, 2007 (5:15 pm)
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The old Pacifica wasn't a big hit, but in this new age of the CUV, can Chrysler finally come up with a legitament MDX fighter? Can Dodge (the true bearer of the "JX49" codename) enter the midsize arena with an SUV that's game enough to beat the well established Pilot/ Highlander, as well as the new hit GMC Acadia/Saturn Oulook, and Ford Edge? What do you think?
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Pics by albook
Jan 26, 2007 (11:05 am)
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Saw some sketches on what this might look like, but couln't figure out how to put them on this sight. this could be the major hit that CHrysler needs- or it could be like the new Sebring. Then again, I think Sebring should sell well.
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2009 Dodge Journey by tshoe
Aug 26, 2007 (10:35 am)
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With the new pictures that just came out the new SUV doesn't look to bad. Kind of wimpy/wagon/mini-van style though. I would prefer a little tougher and larger, more in-between the Nitro and Durango. V-6 is ok but it has to be able to tow 3000 pounds with AWD. Does anybody know the specs on interior room? Is the back seat usable?
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Re: 2009 Dodge Journey [tshoe] by kirstie_h HOST
Aug 27, 2007 (6:39 am)
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Replying to: tshoe (Aug 26, 2007 10:35 am)

Huh, got a link to the pics? I'm sure others would love to see!
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Chrysler by albook
Aug 27, 2007 (12:45 pm)
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Chrysler better make their version one worthy of competition with the likes of Volvo XC90/ MDX. If it's badg engineering, they have truely messed up. THis is the Pacifica replacement, too.
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Re: 2009 Dodge Journey [kirstie_h] by gasman1
Aug 27, 2007 (2:29 pm)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (Aug 27, 2007 6:39 am)

It was on two sites today. The better site (more pics and more information) is: http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/2007/112_0708_2009_dodge_journey
 
I think they have a winner if they do three things:
 
1. Get the MPG up. There's absolutely no reason a vehicle this size can survive with the MPG they mention (19/25 on the 4 CYL and 17/23 or 16/22 on the V-6s).
 
2. Keep the price down to make it COMPETITVE.
 
3. Make sure the interior has a quality feel. Cheap boxes may sell to some, but not me.
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Re: 2009 Dodge Journey [gasman1] by qbrozen
Aug 28, 2007 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: gasman1 (Aug 27, 2007 2:29 pm)

i see another failure here. Underpowered and underefficient. I mean, how is it they have cut 15 hp from the Pacifica and get the same mileage? What could possibly be the appeal here that was not present in the Pacifica?
 
We have a Pac and are quite pleased with it. I'm not sure why it was such a supposed flop. We find it much more luxurious than our Pilot was, and for less $$ after incentives. Where it lacks is refinement in the powertrain and on efficiency. Our Pilot got a couple of miles more per gallon. I felt if the Pac had a 5-speed tranny, like the Pilot, it may have been a close match. Instead, Chrysler responded by dropping in a 6-speed auto, which was a good idea, but then they put in a less efficient 4 liter with it, thereby negating any efficiency advantage the new tranny may have provided. They just don't see to get it.
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Re: 2009 Dodge Journey [qbrozen] by albook
Aug 28, 2007 (1:14 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Aug 28, 2007 8:12 am)

Underpowered and underefficient. I mean, how is it they have cut 15 hp from the Pacifica and get the same mileage? What could possibly be the appeal here that was not present in the Pacifica?
 
Well, for starters, it's not a Pacifica.
THis is a huge step up from the Pacifica already. The Pacifica is a minivan (not what buyers want), and the interior and space and quality is a big let down.
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Re: 2009 Dodge Journey [albook] by qbrozen
Aug 29, 2007 (9:07 am)
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Replying to: albook (Aug 28, 2007 1:14 pm)

Is any of that based in fact? I'll answer for you. No. Well, OK, maybe 1 point ... read on.
 
This thing looks more like a minivan to me than the Pac. Neither, however, are minivans, thanks to no sliding door.
 
The interior of the Pac is far from a letdown. I have yet to have someone in ours who did NOT comment how luxurious it is. Have you driven the competition? We liked our Pilot, but it comes nowhere near the refinement of the Pac on interior comfort. I agree that the interior dimensions in terms of cabin height leave a bit to be desired. Its not as open and airy as many mid-sized utes. And maybe that was its downfall.
 
Quality? Well, its a matter of personal experience. We've had no problems to speak of. I'd say its been on par with our Pilot so far. Both had 1 electrical glitch each. And I believe 1 recall each.
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Re: 2009 Dodge Journey [qbrozen] by albook
Aug 30, 2007 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Aug 29, 2007 9:07 am)

The interior of the Pac is far from a letdown. I have yet to have someone in ours who did NOT comment how luxurious it is. Have you driven the competition? We liked our Pilot, but it comes nowhere near the refinement of the Pac on interior comfort. I agree that the interior dimensions in terms of cabin height leave a bit to be desired. Its not as open and airy as many mid-sized utes. And maybe that was its downfall.
 
Is any of that based in fact? Let me help you out- NO. The interior fails to meet todays standards (I'll giv ethat one a break- it is 5 years old) Both the interior and exterior are dated. Comfort is terrible. Chrysler should just discontinue it because they won't be selling very many more. Any one looking at this versus the Buick Enclave will turn their noses up after just sitting inisde this!
 
We can gripe all we want about if it was a failure or not, but there is one factor that determines it-sales. Thankyou!!!
That's why this new crossover has to be what the Pacifica wasn't- competitive.

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