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Nov 06, 2007 (11:01 am)
Seeing that I drive a total of 8 miles roundtrip/day, GW or gas prices do not affect me, except in deciding how often I want to take a weekend trip.
If I really feel the need to drive, and drive fast I slip Forza2 in the XBox!
#337 of 344 Re: Alternative fuels may boost pollution: report [rockylee]
Nov 13, 2007 (10:48 pm)
I agree with the article. I think the corn ethanol boondoggle is just more Corporate welfare. Filling the pockets of executives at ADM and Verasun. Making gas more expensive with the ethanol added and raising the price of food. I don't think they can prove it has cut imports by even one gallon. Possibly increased oil imports.
The plants being built for distilling corn ethanol will be worthless piles of tax payers money when they come up with a way to get ethanol cheaply out of switchgrass and wood chips. It is an entirely different process. You would not see any corn ethanol plants being built if not for government loan guarantees.
Coal is a fossil fuel. I think it is best used to generate electricity. It can be used cleanly. I don't see any cut backs in using coal for electric generation in the next couple decades.
#338 of 344 you've seen the 4 square at the car dealer
by steve_ HOST
Dec 17, 2007 (10:05 pm)
This guy uses a 4 square too - his point is:
"The potential consequences (of GW) are severe enough to make Al Gore look like a sissy Pollyanna with no guts who sugarcoated the bad news."
Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See (YouTube)
#339 of 344 Re: you've seen the 4 square at the car dealer [steve_]
Dec 18, 2007 (7:36 am)
He drinks too much soda pop to be considered totally credible I liked his non hysteric approach, better than anything out of Hollywood or Washington DC.
Ok, where do I get a Yugo? Seriously, I think it is best to keep planting trees and not using more fossil fuel than needed. I find World Wide public policy to be counter to what we should be doing. Cutting down forests to grown corn, sugar or palm trees for fuel does not make sense. Building cars that are not worth fixing after the warranty expires or they get in a small crash. More HP to carry the added weight, for what?
I could go on.
#340 of 344 Re: you've seen the 4 square at the car dealer [gagrice]
by steve_ HOST
Dec 18, 2007 (9:22 am)
If he's right, we'll have to rename this discussion to "How Will Global Warming Mothball The Vehicles We Used to Drive?"
Soda pop - I remember that. High fructose corn syrup, right? I did have a Jones soda made with cane sugar last week but I'm sticking with ice tea. (And no, that's not one of my usual typos - ice tea is the Southern usage).
#341 of 344 Re: you've seen the 4 square at the car dealer [steve_]
Dec 18, 2007 (9:53 am)
I bought a case of Boylan Soda at Costco about a year ago. It is made with only Cane Sugar as well. It is almost half gone. Once in a great while I have an urge for a sugar fix. We look at every package now. If it has HFCS as a major ingredient we don't buy it. We feed hummingbirds to the tune of a gallon of nectar a day through most of the year. If they will get sick on anything but REAL Cane Sugar, it must have some truth to it.
I don't think you will see much movement away from fossil fuel until it is in fact in short supply. OPEC cutting quotas is not an indicator it is in short supply. It is greed and an attempt to bring the US down economically.
#342 of 344 Re: you've seen the 4 square at the car dealer [gagrice]
by steve_ HOST
Dec 18, 2007 (9:57 am)
The OPEC countries have a lot of money invested in dollars to want to bring us down economically.
Some alternatives to oil would be nice to have, but it sure looks like crude will continue to drive 80% of our economy for decades to come.
#343 of 344 Re: you've seen the 4 square at the car dealer [steve_]
Dec 18, 2007 (10:15 am)
I think it is mostly that crack pot in Venezuela that is after US. Though he continues to feed at the US trough. You are right about investment in this country by most of the Middle East countries. Probably more than we should have allowed.
Jan 18, 2008 (8:55 pm)
Please send some over to my house.