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| I have a 2006 Saturn Ion and have been having trouble this winter with not starting. Turn the key and nothing happens. Of course I have 40,000 miles and warranty up at 36,000. Called dealership and they told me that the grease in the ignition switch gums up when it is cold and doesn't recognize the key which then activites the passlock system and car CANNOT be started no matter what for at least 10 minutes. Started doing some research and it seems Saturn has known about this problem with the ignitition switches for years and have done nothing to correct it. The dealership says they even keep a huge stock of them on hand because they have to replace them so often. They quoted me a price of $205 plus tax to replace switch. Called Saturn corporate in Tennessee and threatened to go to BBB if they didn't offer some kind of reimbursement. Received call the next day telling me they had talked to dealership and I would only have to pay $100 towards repair. I think they should have paid it all, but I guess something is better than nothing. My advice: Call Saturn corporate and give them a piece of your mind. If they get enough complaints maybe they will issue a recall so these can be replaced free. | |
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Replying to: jlp4 (Jan 21, 2008 7:33 pm)
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Replying to: junkionowner (Jan 22, 2008 5:15 pm)
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Replying to: jstm1960 (Jan 24, 2008 4:35 pm) As for the BCM perhaps this will help: Vehicle Theft Deterrent (VTD) Description and Operation Passlock™ System The theft deterrent system has been incorporated into the body control module (BCM). The theft deterrent is provided in order to prevent the vehicle operation if the correct key is not used in order to start the vehicle. The ignition key turns the lock cylinder. The cylinder rotation produces an analog voltage code in the Passlock™ sensor. This voltage code is received by the BCM. The BCM compares the voltage code to the previously learned voltage code. If the codes match, a class 2 message is sent from the BCM to the powertrain control module (PCM)/vehicle control module (VCM). The message enables the fuel injectors.The design of the Passlock™ system is to prevent vehicle theft by disabling the engine unless the ignition lock cylinder rotates properly by engaging the correct ignition key. The system is similar in concept to the PASS-Key® system. However, the Passlock™ system eliminates the need for a key mounted resistor pellet. The components of the Passlock™ system are as follows: The ignition lock cylinder The ignition switch The Passlock™ sensor The BCM The security telltale The VCM/PCM Ignition Lock Cylinder and Housing
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Replying to: willbren (Jan 23, 2007 4:07 am) Well thanks i got some useful info from all of you. Hopefully i don;t have to come back for anything else seein i won't buy another Saturn now that there are GM. Saturn has lost there individualism it's not "Saturn" anymore is "G-saturn-M" all the cars look the same. sorry for the rant. Thanks, Tim |
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Replying to: saturn_newbie (Dec 13, 2007 12:37 pm) Thanks All
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Replying to: rockfish1 (Jan 24, 2008 5:08 pm)
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Replying to: jstm1960 (Jan 25, 2008 4:30 pm) Not all battery shops carry vented batteries. I was surprised Sears does not carry them. |
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Replying to: lola03 (Jan 24, 2008 11:25 pm) It turned out to be the ignition switch. I also needed a battery. The battery was cheaper at the dealer. I called several auto parts stores and was getting prices like $120, $145 for this vented battery. AutoZone doesn't even carry this type of vented battery and Napa wanted me to bring it in to match it up. Even the Saturn dealer I called to in the next city wanted $120. My dealer did it for $99 for the battery and $15 for the installation. Cheaper then I could do it. Another good thing was the tow. We have Saturn tow coverage on the car with the extended warranty and they paid for a tow to the nearest Saturn dealership. That is great when you live in a rural area like we do. I called a tow service directly and they wanted $130 cash and my insurance only will reimburse me up to $100. My car was towed at no change to me. They were even there in under 3 hours. That's not bad for a day when it's been below zero for a couple of days here and all the towing services have been busy. Plus my dealer fixed the car the same day. I was only charged for the battery work since the car has an extended warranty til 100k and I'm at 98k. Just in time!
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Replying to: lola03 (Jan 26, 2008 9:00 am) |
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