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#683 of 1228 Re: Multiple Saturn Issues [catie1133]
Aug 29, 2011 (7:36 am)
here is what I JUST WENT THRU LESS THEN A WEEK AGO
the start issue IS the switch and even though the dealer replaced it once it WILL need to be done multiple times once every few years actually
buy the part at auto zone for 60 bucks cuz it has a lifetime warranty the part is by AC delco i do not remember the part number tho google it or re read this thread your find it
now DIRECTLY AFTER I REPLACED MY SWITCH my ignition stuck permanently in the run position i was pissed it was a coincidence tho
some people pull the fuel pump fuse when this happens but then you have to disconnect the battery too here is what i do when it gets stuck in the run position
PULL THE PLUG TO THE IGNITION SWITCH it kills all you need to be killed and to start the car just plug it back in
but back to the igniton part
wonderful fantastic glorious all knowing CHEVY wanted 850 of my hard earned dollars and i cried
they said i needed a new ignition cylinder, a new housing, a new switch (ya i told em i JUST replaced it) the car needed to be rekeyed and the car had to be re programmed.
after i was done crying i put my game face on!!
went to my car pulled off the steering covers took off my windsheild wiper switch pushed in the two detents (two holes on top of the key cylinder) google that too or look up chiltons manual at autozone (youd think i work there) or i can tell u
Push the first hole pull the cylinder a litttle
push the second hole back hole closest to driver door) pull cyninder out a little
then push the first one again and pop!! out she comes
take that little booger to a lock smith and be like hey mate
is this thing bad?
mine the trap door for the springs popped open and caused the jam
also the magnet in there was funking with the key
dude charged me 12 bucks
ya 12 BUCKS compared to 850
ALSO DONT USE A KEY NOT MADE FOR THE CAR
i coerced a very sweet key making lady into using a key for an older ion on my 2006 and i THINK that added to some of my problems
buuut i didnt wanna pay 60 for the proper key
questions comments concerns ??
get back to me thanks!
OH ALSO I BELIEVE THE FACT THAT JUMPING THE CAR STARTED IT TO BE JUST A COINCIDENCE
it could be tat you had a bad battery but i think that the anti theft just timed out
to do that just turn the key to the start position then let it drop into the run position the anti theft light on the dash will blink for ten min exactly
then become solid then shut off when it shuts off turn the key to the off positin then pull it out put it back in and start her upp
if this works then it IS your ignition switch and it should be replaced i know it sounds like a lot bt its all very easy and very worth it for a piece of mind knowing you wont be late to work or school or a family emergency
good luck to all of us saturn owners
#684 of 1228 Re: YEP [saturntech9]
Aug 29, 2011 (7:41 am)
ya i found that thanks so much i reposted another little blurb on catie11 comment read that one!! lol fun times thanks for the reply good sir!
#685 of 1228 Re: Pamela 519 [dweezil]
Aug 29, 2011 (8:56 am)
Thanks. So you think I should send gm an email? I will. and my mechanic (not really mine, cause it was the first time i went to him, but he did come highly recommended) he actually ended up telling me to take it to the GM dealer as well, b/c after I talked to him about an ignition switch and whatever else people are saying on here, he did some more research and basically said he does not know what the problem is. I didn't think I needed a new battery. In the few months it sat on the street after the final time of not starting when i would try to turn it on, the radio and lights came on. he told me had I sat in the car for a few minutes the lights and radio would have shut off. he had already put the battery in, so I paid him. I am driving my daughter's car and don't want to. I need mine dealt with. So frustrating.
#686 of 1228 Re: not turning on and then turing on 10 - 60 minutes later [saturntech9]
Aug 29, 2011 (9:08 am)
thanks. You think I should go get the ignition switch and have someone put it in? Can I get this at pep boys or somewhere like that? And as the only one I know that used to keep our cars going is no longer around, I am going to have to pay someone to put it in. I have heard the ignition switch from others. I see you recommend amazon. You think that's better than pep boys or auto zone?
#687 of 1228 Re: Pamela- don't spend another dime [hatesaturnion]
Aug 29, 2011 (9:13 am)
Ignition switch seems to be the majority of the posts. What do you recommend? Should I buy my own and have a mechanic or pep boys or some place like that put it in? My daughter's boyfriend was a fabulous mechanic and kept our cars going. he did research on this for me when it first started happening in the summer of 2009. I am so frustrated and can not afford the $100 just to diagnose it and then god knows what else they will charge me to fix it. and from what i am reading, they don't usually fix the problem
#688 of 1228 Re: 2005 Saturn Ion Electrical Problems [stevencp]
Aug 29, 2011 (9:22 am)
How did it go? I have heard about the disconnecting thing as well. and i heard it was not only the check engine light that came on, but others as well.
How did your installation go?
the crazy thing for me is this not starting and then starting 10 minutes later..... this started in the summer of 2009. Intermittently it would not start and would sometimes take as long as 60 minutes, which always sucked and made me late for work. I got to the point where i would go out about 30+ minutes before it was time to leave and start the car. if it did start I would leave it running until it was time for me to leave. Finally, back in May I took the dog up to the fields to run around. when it was time to leave the fields the car wouldn't start. usually, once the car did start i would not have problems for the rest of that day. this time.... the car never started again and i finally had it towed to a mechanic someone recommended. he replaced the battery which I didn't think i needed and then was talking about a starter. the total between the battery and starter and labor was over $500. i don't have that kind of money and it has been there ever since. i did pay for the battery and that labor and he recently told me after doing some more research he thinks I should take it to the GM dealer.
#689 of 1228 Re: not turning on and then turing on 10 - 60 minutes later [gmcustsvc]
Aug 29, 2011 (9:32 am)
VIN # 1G8AG52FX5Z160981.
The Saturn dealership where I bought the car went out of business and now the local Chevrolet dealership handles Saturns. I bought the car in 12/31/10 for an oil change and mentioned the problem. The man there said he had never heard of this before and told me for $100 they would run a diagnostic.
This is very frustrating to me, because from everything I have read, spending the $100 is the beginning of a very expensive and frustrating time and many times not accomplishing anything but being out of pocket a lot of money. I don't understand how there are so many people with this problem that it has its own blog, yet they won't recall it?
any help you can give me is greatly appreciated. My daughter will be back soon and I will be without a car to get to work.
#690 of 1228 Re: not turning on and then turing on 10 - 60 minutes later [saturntech9]
Aug 29, 2011 (9:36 am)
I live in California and although it did get below 40 degrees, my car would start in the cold. weather did not seem to be a factor, especially as the problem started in the summer of 2009 and the last time it started was this past May. So am I to get a switch? And where to get that tool? Also, my daughter's boyfriend who was the one who fixed everything from my staturn to her 1995 bemmer is no longer around. the mechanic came highly recommended, but admitted he has never seen this problem before. my warranty is long gone isn't it? I am over 100,000 and the car is a 2005. I truly need to get it running as my daughter will be back soon and her car will no longer be an option for me
#691 of 1228 Re: Multiple Saturn Issues [catie1133]
Aug 29, 2011 (9:52 am)
When the car doesnt start and you had it jumped later was the security light on solid or flashing?If so i would replace the ignition switch.When i bought a duralast lifetime warranty ignition switch from auto zone they told me wells made it not ac delco i guess it depends on who you ask who made on what they tell you.There 50plus tax from there last i saw.I would also say this could be the last time you may have to replace it but that would be going out on a limb as many as i habe changed.I have only changed my nieces 03 ion ignition switch once and that was years ago with a factory one.Now with your car not allowing the key to turn off.Does it only go to start run and acc when his happens?If so its not the cylinder when the tumblar doors come off the cylinders the cylinder sticks in the run position.Really common for what you decribe to happen on the ion and chevy cobolt.There is a micro switch at the base of your gear shift handle rod that fails to let the ket turn off in the park position.That micro switch moves the solenoid in ignition housing allowing the key to turn off when the shifter is in park.When the other person replying to you said to unplug the ignition switch and see if the key tuns off that is removing the power from the solenoid to allow you to remove turn the key off.All that proves is its the solenoid keeping the key from turning off.Its going to be ethier a bad micro switch or a sticking shifter release or the button itself you push to shift sticking.You will have remove the center console to see which it is.If its the micro switch that includes the micro switch the gear indicator light and the solenoid that keeps the gear shift from being moved without your foot on the brake there all wired in the same harness.I have the part number for that and where to buy it online.I just got one for my nieces ion.
#692 of 1228 Re: not turning on and then turing on 10 - 60 minutes later [pamela519]
Aug 29, 2011 (10:00 am)
It doesnt have to be below 40 degrees for it not to start but most of the time being that cold will make it happen a lot more often.When it doesnt start is the security light on solid or flashing?If so i would repalce the switch there is to change anyone handy with tools can do it.What tool are you asking about?I would say your warranty is over unless you want to pay the gm dealer the diagnoses fee and take a chance if there going to repair it for free.But i think you have a better chance of just doing what i was suggesting.Amazon the switch is 23 and auto zone its about 50 plus tax.