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#643 of 1201 Re: 2006 Saturn ion ignition switch [gmcustsvc]
by hatesaturnion
Aug 12, 2011 (12:43 pm)
Caron,
GM Customer service has done nothing but give me the run around. If you want my case #, I can give it to you... but basically they tell me I need to go to a GM dealer... which I did before... but now they are no longer a GM dealer, so I need to go to a new place and pay them out of pocket to diagnose the issue. This is a GM ponzi scheme- the dealers make money and GM moves on to other things, not caring about its customers. Customers want #1 -issue reolution and for GM to take accountability for their faulty ION models with ignition start problems. GM customer service is not doing that. What I would really love is for Saturn/GM to pay for me to get the problem diagnosed and fixed- maybe a total of $500 at the most. Will GM do that? NO!!! I have requested, and still get the run around. Now Caron- you tell me what I can do!
#644 of 1201 Re: 2006 Saturn ion ignition switch [notlkh]
by mkreisher
Aug 13, 2011 (4:32 pm)
Has anyone had a problem with their saturn turning off on its own while driving down the street? Ive never had a problem starting it but occasionally (3 times in the past 4-5 months) the car has turned off after I went over a bump while driving down the road. I got a new battery and that didnt fix the problem. Ive read all over the internet that this is a problem with Saturn Ions and not even Saturn can figure out how to fix it. Any help/comments would be extremely awesome. Thank you! Oh, Ive got a 2005 with a lil over 100,000 miles.
#645 of 1201 Re: 2006 Saturn ion ignition switch [mkreisher]
by saturntech9
Aug 13, 2011 (4:47 pm)
So when it dies when you hit a bump will it restart right away?Also have you had it scanned for codes yet?The engine and body computer?Those ions have had a lot of issues with terminal tightness issue i have found a lot of open terminals causing all kinds of problems.One thing you can try and has helped me find loose terminals on those cars is let the car idle and smack the under hood fuse box with your hand on top side etc also do the same with inside fuse box/bcm see if the car dies.
#646 of 1201 Re: 2006 Saturn ion ignition switch [hatesaturnion]
by saturntech9
Aug 13, 2011 (4:59 pm)
Its a easy cheap fix if your handy with tools or know someone that is all you have to do is replace the switch and relearn the pass lock sensor.The switch at auto zone are 50 and the ones on amazon are 22.If you have been having issues lately with it like the last couple of days you can have body control module scanned for codes and have a B2960 and or B3033 then you have a bad switch.If it was my car and it was intermintantly not starting i would just replace the switch.
#647 of 1201 Re: again! [justjessica]
by saturntech9
Aug 13, 2011 (5:03 pm)
So when did you replace the switch?They have redesigned that switch 3 or 4 times.You can replace it with one from auto zone there switch is made by wells its a easy replacement.
#648 of 1201 Re: 2006 Saturn ion ignition switch [mkreisher]
by kikib
Aug 13, 2011 (9:13 pm)
yes, my son had exactly the same problem of his saturn ion 2005 turning off on its own....he also had problems starting it....finally, after it wouldn't start when he went to pick it up from the dealership when they said sorry but we couldn't duplicate the problem, a service guy finally figured out it was a burned out fuse box and it needed a new body control module. the bcm had to be ordered from west virginia and the fuse box from michigan (he goes to school in louisiana) but it's been fine ever since....$1300 later!
#649 of 1201 Re: 2005 Saturn Ion Electrical Problems [dev9]
by perkiekat
Aug 14, 2011 (12:10 pm)
I just ran into this same problem last night. I tried to turn my car off and the key would not go the the lock position and my car kept running! After 1 1/2 hours I finally found out what fuse to pull and I disconnected the battery to turn the car completely off! What a deal! Of course I can't call Saturn until tomorrow morning but I will be making that call. Just last month my Power Steering had to be replaced. Saturn covered that. Since this issue has been an on-going issue for YEARS and Saturn is very aware of it...Saturn should fix it.
Like you, if they don't cover the cost, I am calling my attorney general office and get their opinion on what my next step will be. I can't afford to have this repaired. I am by myself and barely making ends meet now without having to repair Saturn's faulty car when they should step up to the plate and fix this issue. It's nothing I done that caused this. I keep my car maintained regularly so the blame is not with me, it's Saturn. I will post what they tell me tomorrow.
#650 of 1201 Re: 2005 Saturn Ion Electrical Problems [perkiekat]
by dozensaturn
Aug 14, 2011 (1:23 pm)
You are correct, this has been going on years, in fact ever since the ION:s entered the market with the 2003 model, and we have had 03's 04's and 05's ...
Sold off the 03's, still have one 04 with starting problems on the average 5 times a week - year around, in the 'cold' 50-60 degrees and in the warm 80-95 ... no difference, problem is the same.
This '04 is next to go in exchange for a non GM product.
Also have several '05 ... One of the 05's has this problem but only once in a while.
I agree, Saturn is very aware of this problem, but they (read GM) do not recognize it - that is the problem ... not recognizing it - in the hopes all dissatisfied Saturn owners is going to remain GM customers, well we are not as 4 ION's is gone so far - with the rest to go as well ...
#651 of 1201 Re: 2006 Saturn ion ignition switch [saturntech9]
by mkreisher
Aug 14, 2011 (5:36 pm)
Yes, after hitting the bump and the car turning off, all I have to do is restart it and its fine. It has done this about 3 times within the past 4 months, its very random. Luckily I wasnt on the freeway any of those times.
Ive read from several different people that they replaced their fuse box and their ignition switch and a few months later the car would turn off on its own again. Also, that they have had their car scanned for codes and no code comes up. I cant afford to do all of this when I have a feeling these people are correct and my money would just go to waste.
I also came across a thread on a different message board form a guy who spoke to saturn and hired a lawyer and everything after having spent $1,000's on parts for his car and still having the same problem. He said after months of going back and forth with GM they finally took responsibility and admitted that this is a problem with Saturn Ions and they don't know how to fix it, so they gave him a settlement. I think Im gonna get rid of my car, I really dont wanna die on the freeway (or at all)!
#652 of 1201 Re: again! [saturntech9]
by justjessica
Aug 14, 2011 (7:46 pm)
It was replaced the winter of 2005 as per the recall and again by my mechanic in 2009. But seriously, why should I have to replace it more than once? This is ridiculous.