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Saturn ION, Electrical, Coupe, Sedan
#631 of 1225 Re: 2006 Saturn ion ignition switch [saturntech9]
Aug 09, 2011 (4:52 pm)
To all those looking to replace the ignition switch (and that will almost certainly NOT cure the problem), the same original GM switch for $49.xx will cost you less than $20 at ROCKAUTO.com ....
The ignition problem is a SAD issue.
And it is not related to winter conditions as so many are referring to.
One of our ION's had this problem (as so many many times before) numerous times last week, heat index was 106 and it required the usual wait 10 minutes etc before starting. After 3 'dead' attempts, the 4th after 30 minutes it started right up! Go figure.
GM is simply not taking responsibility to issue a proper repair instruction - instead they rather see that Saturn ION owners purchase NON-GM vehicles when changing out the failing Saturn ION's ....
Have replaced 4 so far with NON-GM cars, 5 more is due this fall/winter ... One thing is certain, it will not be GM products.
#632 of 1225 Re: 2006 Saturn ion ignition switch [dozensaturn]
Aug 10, 2011 (3:37 am)
Since the last time I posted here, my ion has not stopped starting even once, which is normal behavior during the summer for my ion. I expect it to stop starting maybe once a month, if that, until October or November, whereupon it should become a weekly event, then in December about at least a daily event. This has been the pattern for 5 years, since I purchased this vehicle. Which is strange since it seems inconsistant with your observations that it is not related to the weather/season.
Do you experience any variations whatsoever between the temperature/humidity extremes?
#633 of 1225 Re: 2006 Saturn ion ignition switch [notlkh]
Aug 10, 2011 (6:35 am)
Have you had the vehicle diagnosed by a GM dealership? Please keep me posted.
Caron, GM Customer Service
#634 of 1225 Re: 2006 Saturn ion ignition switch [gmcustsvc]
Aug 10, 2011 (7:08 am)
Once I had it in for a service early on, and I mentioned the issue, but I was told that they couldn't do anything since no error code showed up, and that it started fine there.
Eventually I came across this thread, and saw how prevalent this issue is, and how it seems to be unaddressable by GM, I've decided to live with it. I don't mind 10 minutes of extra reading time every now and then, just so long as I'm not freezing too many times during a cold winters day.
However, if you think it is worth trying again, when should I do it? Would it be worth doing now, when it hasn't happened in over a month? Or should I wait until it happens, and then get it in as soon as possible, within a day or two of the issue ocurring again?
#635 of 1225 Re: 2006 Saturn ion ignition switch [notlkh]
Aug 10, 2011 (10:15 am)
You need to have the ignition switch replaced the first bulletines we got at the saturn dealer for the no starts said the no start is worse at temps of 40 degrees or less.I would just replace the ignition switch if it was my car.I know the auto zone ignition switch is made by wells and has a lifetime warranty.
#636 of 1225 Re: 2006 Saturn ion ignition switch [notlkh]
Aug 11, 2011 (7:18 am)
If you are not having any problems at this time I would encourage you to wait until you are experiencing these concerns to have the vehicle brought into the dealership. At that time please be sure to contact us directly and we will be able to assist in setting up a case with GM Customer Assistance to try and get these problems resolved.
Caron, GM Customer Service
#637 of 1225 Re: 2006 Saturn ion ignition switch [notlkh]
Aug 11, 2011 (8:22 am)
I would only wait to get the switch fixed if gm customer service was for sure going to pay for it?Otherwise if you know someone handy with tools its a easy fix amazon has the switch for 22 and i will give full replacement instructions.Otherwise why put yourself thru anymore years of this no start you have been lucky so far.I have seen some of those switches not let the car start for a day or more.Its up to you its your car and your burden.
#638 of 1225 Re: 2006 Saturn ion ignition switch [gmcustsvc]
Aug 11, 2011 (5:06 pm)
You better hurry up getting to a gm dealer ... the window is less than ten, yes ten minutes and the car may start and the dealer cannot trace the problem. GM need to get a car that is 'guaranted' to have the starting problem and to the diagnostics themselves. I have at least one, that act up every week, sometimes more than once in one day! I will gladly sell them this vehicle ... By the way, to change the AC Delco Switch (less than $20 at Rockauto.com ... same as the GM dealer sell for $49) is NOT the answer.
#639 of 1225 Re: 2006 Saturn ion ignition switch [dozensaturn]
Aug 12, 2011 (4:13 am)
So many opinions about this issue.
DozenSaturn first is adamant that the issue is not weather related,
Saturntech9 insists it is the ignition switch, and should be changed immediately
GMCustsvc suggests waiting until it stops starting and let the dealership diagnose and correct,
And then Dozensaturn points out that the diagnostic window is the 10 minutes that it won't start...
It seems that the white wire method is the most reliable, but to me it also suggests that the issue is not currently diagnosable, as I don't believe the diagnostics have been designed to detect variations in resistance in a wire due to possible temperature variations, and I also agree with the 10 minute diagnostic window that Dozensaturn mentioned.
But the ignition switch, is it physically connected to the white wire? If not, I don't see how it could correct the starting issue...
#640 of 1225 Re: 2006 Saturn ion ignition switch [notlkh]
Aug 12, 2011 (5:22 am)
The white wire fix as mentioned also sets off a light on the dash that can get you failed on smog and other inspections. That's mentioned in one of the "how to" videos on You Tube as well.
There is a Passlock "bypass" kit available that I read about in this very Edmund's thread that is sold by car stereo outfits that's been used with some success .