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Saturn ION, Electrical, Coupe, Sedan
#606 of 1228 Re: 2005 Saturn Ion Electrical Problems [dweezil]
Jul 24, 2011 (11:19 pm)
As far as the key not turning off is most likely caused by a bad micro switch at the base of the shifter.Its a wired set the mirco switch gear indicator light and the shift lock solenoid really comm on problem on that car.I cant belive they didnt check that out.Its esy to change you just remove the console and its right there.Also 2003 was the first year for the ion it replaced the S model saturn which ended in 2002.
#607 of 1228 Re: Saturn Ion Quad Coupe Not Starting [saturntech9]
Jul 24, 2011 (11:24 pm)
so would this cause the car to not start at all.....because once i kept trying to start it....the message board said service engine...and the lock symbol had came on....now the only thing the car does is turn ....and how much does the power sterring chip cost....
#608 of 1228 Re: Saturn Ion Quad Coupe Not Starting [aj87]
Jul 24, 2011 (11:38 pm)
A bad ignition switch will cause a no start you will get a brief crank then no crank with a security light on.So are you loosing powering steering while driving?There is a power steering computer but most of the time its the motor that goes bad on those cars.You will have to get the power steering codes read and depending on the code is what your going to test and repair.Most indepent shops dont have a scanner to read the power steering also if you have the body control module scanned and have a B3033 and or B2960 you have a bad ignition switch.I would also have the engine computer scanned as well for codes.
#609 of 1228 Re: 2005 Saturn Ion Electrical Problems [saturntech9]
Jul 25, 2011 (2:01 am)
Thanks. They replaced the entire shift thing, had to order from L.A.
Oh yes, I am aware the ION's first model year was 2003, but the first models for sale were available in fall 2002 as 2003 models. GM has known about the problem since introduction is what I should have said.
And someone had to sign off with the supplier for this POS piece even earlier than that. The first problems started showing up not long after the first IONs hit the streets and GM just let it go on for years afterward.
That's what makes the continued problem so far into the run and then using the same garbage in other lines so infuriating.
Is there any way to simply to keep that key release button under the steering wheel depressed ? It's likely going to happen again and I would rather do that than doing the "cut the white wire" fix. Or even swapping the ignition switch for yet another defective replacement piece.
Also read here on Edmunds about a Passlock by pass kit that's out there. No one is going to steal this car, and I could do without the Passlock junk.
#610 of 1228 Re: 2005 Ion starting problems [lovinlife011]
Jul 25, 2011 (6:36 am)
I apologize for your frustrations. I would like to see if there are any open recalls for your vehicle; can you please send me your VIN?
GM Customer Service
#611 of 1228 Re: 2003 Saturn ION stops starting [flabbergasted]
Jul 25, 2011 (10:44 am)
Can you please send me your VIN and current mileage? I apologize for your frustrations. If you can let me know what’s going on at the dealer as well, I look forward to your response.
GM Customer Service
#612 of 1228 Re: 2005 Saturn Ion Electrical Problems [dweezil]
Jul 25, 2011 (3:49 pm)
A new ignition switch isnt going to fix the key not turning off iam not going to tell anyone how to defeat the safety device that keeps you from turning the key off and removing it while the car is in gear.Like i said before there is a micro switch on the the base of the shifter shaft that has probably failed and its pretty easy to change that is causing the key from being turned off in park.As far as the ignition switch goes they made atleast 4 redesigned part numbers on that i can remember.The aftermarket one that auto zone sells is made by wells you could try that one its about 50 iam not sure who makes the other one for saturn besides maybe ac delco.I used that auto zone one in someone elses cars over a year ago and its still working.Replace my nieces 2003 ion like over 3yrs ago with a foactory one and it still is working fine.
#613 of 1228 2005 Ion that won't start consistently
Jul 26, 2011 (1:15 pm)
My problem is that it won't start. I may have to turn the key 5, 10, 50 times before anything happens under the hood. With the key turned, I have full electrical function inside the car, but no click or turn over of the engine. Eventually it starts - usually. Today, I tried for about 7 minutes to make it go, then the key locked up. Ironically, on the next turn trying to get the key out, it started, then wouldn't shut off or release the key. It's at the dealership now, and they are saying hat they will replace the key cylinder, but that still may not fix the not starting issue. They can't get it to reproduce and it isn't "showing any codes."
When I took it in today, the guy that 1st looked at it said that it was very common and all Saturns eventually have this happen. Seriously? Yet they can't fix it?
I do have an extended warranty, but I'm tired of paying the deducible for the same thing over and over without getting fixed.
#614 of 1228 Re: 2005 Ion that won't start consistently [hmmmdonuts]
Jul 26, 2011 (1:52 pm)
my son had the same problems....ask your guy to look at your fuse box and see if it's burned out and if the body control module needs to be replaced...ever since those were replaced on his car, it has been working perfectly
#615 of 1228 Re: 2005 Ion that won't start consistently [hmmmdonuts]
Jul 27, 2011 (7:05 am)
Can you please email me directly? Please include your VIN, current mileage, and involved dealer. I look forward to working with you.
GM Customer Service