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Saturn ION, Electrical, Coupe, Sedan
#600 of 1223 Re: 2003 Saturn ION stops starting [flabbergasted]
Jul 22, 2011 (9:10 am)
I'm still waiting for my son to send me his repair paperwork so I can begin a GM Customer Assistance file, but I found a recall for ignition switch letter in my files. We have until August 31, 2011 to file for reimbursement. I imagine since your car is a 2003 and ours is a 2005 is why we can still file, but you might mention the recall when you go talk to someone. Unfortunately, we had to have the body control module and fuse box replaced ($1300)and not the ignition switch so we may be totally out of luck, but you would think with everyone posting problems on this blog that something would get done to reimburse all of us. Good luck and I look forward to reading more from you.
#601 of 1223 Re: 2005 ION Ignition Problems [dweezil]
Jul 22, 2011 (6:42 pm)
Probably need new tumblers. Mine did the same but my key wouldn't come out. My mechanic replaced the tumblers, no problems w/the key since.
#602 of 1223 Re: 2005 ION Ignition Problems [justjessica]
Jul 23, 2011 (4:16 am)
It's weird. That was replaced 20,000 miles ago and they claim it was "worn out" this time and replaced the thing as well as cut new keys.
It's ironic as I chose the car with as few power accessories as possible to avoid things going haywire down the road. The engine and transmission are stout, the polymer helps to keep the body looking nice, should be a fine candidate for long term driving. Theory shot down.
Only later did I find out that the ION , at the time, had the most sophisticated electronic system in it's category. I had read that the 03s and 04s were the most problematic and the 05s had addressed the ignition problem and had all the improvements shared with it's Cobalt cousin which was new for that year.
Another of my theories shot down: never buy a car in it's first year of production, wait a couple so all the bugs can be worked out.
Still it's nice to have the car back. And the service people have been Grade A.
#603 of 1223 2005 Ion starting problems
Jul 24, 2011 (7:31 pm)
Bought this car used in March. within a couple weeks, car alarm would go off every 20 minutes in the middle of the night, and would have to use the remote to reset, but then the inside lights would stay on. Found on another online forum that the moonroof drains were clogged and some switches were bad. Had that fixed and that solved the issue for now. Then shortly after the car wouldn't start. Battery fine, took to my mechanic, who couldn't find anything, but thought it may have been the starter. Replaced that, and now it's happened again. Found this forum tonight and can't believe what I am reading here. From what I see it looks like it's a passcode issue? So sorry I bought this car as we can't afford an unreliable car for work and school commuting. Now I'm reading about power steering problems and keys getting stuck in the ignition. I just am looking for a starting point for who I may contact at GM , and a way to keep my daughter from being stranded every time this happens.
#604 of 1223 Re: 2004 Saturn ION Starting Problem [gmcustsvc]
Jul 24, 2011 (10:55 pm)
trying to find out the cost to get my 04 saturn ion fixed........the car acted like it wanted to turn over but never did.....changed starter battery....and alternator....still makes a cranking noise.....after several times car had shut off....and only the lights come on now.....can someone please give me advice....email is andrew.meekinsyahoo.com....thanks...
#605 of 1223 Re: Saturn Ion Quad Coupe Not Starting [jhansen09]
Jul 24, 2011 (11:03 pm)
As far as the starting problem goes sounds like a bad ignition switch a pretty common problem on those cars.If you have the body control module scanned for codes and you find a b2960 and or a b3033 then you need a new ignition switch which contains your pass lock sensor.The switch is only like 50 its a pretty easy install you just have to relearn the new pass lock sensor.As far as the other problem goes i would need you to have the computer scanned for codes and you give me the exact code numbers and we could go from there.
#606 of 1223 Re: 2005 Saturn Ion Electrical Problems [dweezil]
Jul 24, 2011 (11:19 pm)
As far as the key not turning off is most likely caused by a bad micro switch at the base of the shifter.Its a wired set the mirco switch gear indicator light and the shift lock solenoid really comm on problem on that car.I cant belive they didnt check that out.Its esy to change you just remove the console and its right there.Also 2003 was the first year for the ion it replaced the S model saturn which ended in 2002.
#607 of 1223 Re: Saturn Ion Quad Coupe Not Starting [saturntech9]
Jul 24, 2011 (11:24 pm)
so would this cause the car to not start at all.....because once i kept trying to start it....the message board said service engine...and the lock symbol had came on....now the only thing the car does is turn ....and how much does the power sterring chip cost....
#608 of 1223 Re: Saturn Ion Quad Coupe Not Starting [aj87]
Jul 24, 2011 (11:38 pm)
A bad ignition switch will cause a no start you will get a brief crank then no crank with a security light on.So are you loosing powering steering while driving?There is a power steering computer but most of the time its the motor that goes bad on those cars.You will have to get the power steering codes read and depending on the code is what your going to test and repair.Most indepent shops dont have a scanner to read the power steering also if you have the body control module scanned and have a B3033 and or B2960 you have a bad ignition switch.I would also have the engine computer scanned as well for codes.
#609 of 1223 Re: 2005 Saturn Ion Electrical Problems [saturntech9]
Jul 25, 2011 (2:01 am)
Thanks. They replaced the entire shift thing, had to order from L.A.
Oh yes, I am aware the ION's first model year was 2003, but the first models for sale were available in fall 2002 as 2003 models. GM has known about the problem since introduction is what I should have said.
And someone had to sign off with the supplier for this POS piece even earlier than that. The first problems started showing up not long after the first IONs hit the streets and GM just let it go on for years afterward.
That's what makes the continued problem so far into the run and then using the same garbage in other lines so infuriating.
Is there any way to simply to keep that key release button under the steering wheel depressed ? It's likely going to happen again and I would rather do that than doing the "cut the white wire" fix. Or even swapping the ignition switch for yet another defective replacement piece.
Also read here on Edmunds about a Passlock by pass kit that's out there. No one is going to steal this car, and I could do without the Passlock junk.