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#564 of 1223 Saturn ION starting problem
Jun 06, 2011 (4:37 am)
You are so correct, this is not a 'cold start' problem - and it is not the battery (which someone recommended you change) ....
GM could get out of this embarrising problem simply by recognizing that the problem is there.
And, by authorize 'by back' of one vehicle that is experiencing this problem, take possession and truly examine it - find the source of the problem, issue proper repair orders, and maybe as a goodwill issue a recall. This will generate goodwill - Saturn owners will shy away from GM
unless this is properly handled. Saturn did not do it. And, so far GM is not reaching out far enough. I just 'unloaded' one more of our ION's ... replacing it with one from the other US brand that have ION size vehicles.
Good luck with your 2003 ION.
#565 of 1223 Re: not starting issue [nr8]
Jun 06, 2011 (8:05 am)
I dont even have a remote lock/unlock FOB, so i dont think that this is the problem, but you never know? I am trading my car in on Saturday and am gonna hope that its doesnt stall/not start when the dealership test drives it! I feel bad, but what can i do? I will take whatever $$ i can get for it!! Good luck on your ion!
#566 of 1223 After failure to ignite, my love affair with Saturn over
Jun 06, 2011 (12:20 pm)
Similar to other recent stories on here, I also have decided my longtime (3 Saturns over 12 years) affair with Saturn is over. My car (2005 Saturn ION2) suddenly failed to turn over, with the erratic clacks with blinking engine light (while only in "1st" position) followed by inability to turn over or even try. Waiting, then try again. Waiting, then try again. Finally it acts normal -- or grumbles in chitty-chitty bangbang mode when trying.
I couldn't make it to my now default authorized (GM Chevrolet) dealer, who are far away and they didn't have time for me or know what the issue was. Local mechanic befuddled and gave me new battery. Ignition Switch replaced already during same fracas in 2007. Mechanic believes it's the " buss in computer relay center" or "fuse box assembly" (I believe the big BCM) which the part is on national back order.
I see here that may not help, or be the tip of a more expensive iceberg. God I loved this car, but I can't even sell it for value or trade it in. The stabilizer bars keep breaking, the automatic door lock on driver side stopped working, etc etc etc. But the main problem is the no-start: I grow more and more helpless every day.
#567 of 1223 Re: 2005 Saturn Ion Electrical Problems [gmcustsvc]
Jun 06, 2011 (6:02 pm)
Forgive us for not trusting GM, Caron — but Saturn owners are used to getting screwed.
Care to comment on the tens of thousands of Saturn owners who did report defective transmission problems for years and ultimately won the largest class action settlement in US history against GM? Probably not, considering GM declared bankruptcy 45 days later and told all 200,000 of us in the US and Canada we were on our own to replace or repair a known defective CVT to the tune of $7500.
My dying words will be to never buy a GM — EVER. And I'm still young enough to tell everyone I meet to buy any other car. GM lies and the US government lets them. If this were a Toyota problem, there would be Congressional hearing and GM's CEO of the week would be handed his ass. Instead — nothing.
At least they didn't kill, injury or permanently disable me or a family member. They're not paying victims or survivors either.
#568 of 1223 Re: After failure to ignite, my love affair with Saturn over [sadsaturnguy]
Jun 07, 2011 (8:29 am)
I apologize for the problems you are experiencing with your vehicle. Could you please email me your VIN? I would like to look further into your situation.
Caron, GM Customer Service
Jun 08, 2011 (9:38 am)
Have a 04 saturn ion. the problem im having is getting the key to turn to start the car. you put the key in the ignition and it wont turn but if you wiggle the key and the steering wheel it will turn after a while and you can start the car its just getting the key out of the locked position. Whith all the problems GM has with their cars maybe its time to for them to close their doors for good because as i see my tax dollar bailout of Gm was a waste. I grew up in a GM family my father was GM only no matter what but as for me this problem has caused me to rethink GM's desire for quality and service and i'm changing to ford or dodge. one of GM's motto's is "like a rock" and thats one thing they have right their cars are like a rock sit in one place and have no good use at all.
#570 of 1223 Re: After failure to ignite, my love affair with Saturn over [gmcustsvc]
Jun 08, 2011 (8:59 am)
To which address do you want VIN numbers sent?
Issue: No start, sometimes up to 4 attempt's (ten minutes wait between each attempt) before ION '04 and '05:s will start.
Jun 08, 2011 (9:06 am)
This should be a rather easy one for the GM technicians to respond to, and I would not be surprised if the same issue can be had at Ford, Chrysler or most other brands as well ...
I know we have had it every now and then (mostly on the ION:s but on the L300's also), and most recently on (our last) '04 ..
Looking forward to see a general GM recommendation or answer to to overcome this issue.
#572 of 1223 Re: Key Problem [andrew124]
Jun 09, 2011 (11:20 am)
Have you had the vehicle diagnosed by a GM dealership? Please keep me posted.
Caron, GM Customer Service
#573 of 1223 2004 Saturn ION Starting Problem
Jun 09, 2011 (2:13 pm)
I have a 2004 Saturn ION, Ive had my car for almost 4 years now and every winter I was having the same starting problem....NOW its happening when its 60 degrees out or more. Im sick of the problem. What is more sickening is my father worked and dedicated his to life to GM until he recently retired. Always GM lover, but these days...I just dont know.
Anyway which is it? Do I cut the white wire under the steering column to fix it or do i get a remote start that will fix it? PLEASE HELP. Thanks so much.