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Saturn ION, Electrical, Coupe, Sedan
#532 of 1223 Re: 2005 Saturn Ion Electrical Problems [lolo555]
May 03, 2011 (8:45 am)
My 2004 Saturn has finally made it through a winter without putting me in a no start situation - by having the ignition switch replaced. I have discussed this issue with an Ex-Saturn mechanic and he highly recommended to have only the ignition switch replaced on 2004's and on 2005 and 2006 Saturns the ignition switch and the module need to be replaced. I also did my own research and found that GM did send out a bulletin to all GM facilities regarding this issue. When I took my car in I "told" the service person to check for the bulletin before working on the car. He checked and found it. Yes, I spent a lot ~ $350.
#533 of 1223 Cut wire or replace ignition switch
May 03, 2011 (7:16 pm)
I can say that both cutting the white wire and replacing the ignition switch will work. I've done both. Problem solved, and all was good, even in -40 celsius. (Before, no start at -10 celsius). Check engine light remained on.
A couple of months later, my car was in the shop (GM) and they discovered the error code and decided to "fix" my broken wire... without asking me.
Next day, no start.
Complain to service dept, yada yada yada, and...
They convinced me to replace the ignition switch. (The mechanic showed me the GM service bulletin.) White wire remains connected. That's been since early January this year, we've had lots of minus 30 and lower days... and no problems.
Hopefully next fall it still works...it was worth the $300 if it does.
#534 of 1223 Re: 2005 Saturn Ion Electrical Problems [rb52]
May 08, 2011 (10:11 am)
Saturn replaced my ignition switch when my car was only 6 mos old. Car started acting up the following winter, and every winter since. So, replacing the ignition switch isn't always the answer.
#535 of 1223 Re: Cut wire or replace ignition switch [cath5]
May 10, 2011 (8:04 am)
Shoot I saved that $300.00 by cutting it myself. I won't give GM the satisfaction of getting another dime of my money..They knew this problem existed for a long time and still they won't acknowledge it. This should be a free fix. It's so simple even a GM tech could do it...HAH
#536 of 1223 Re: 2005 Saturn Ion Electrical Problems [justjessica]
May 10, 2011 (9:29 am)
Are you still experiencing problems with your vehicle?
Caron, GM Customer Service
#537 of 1223 Re: 2005 Saturn Ion Electrical Problems [gmcustsvc]
May 10, 2011 (9:35 am)
Yes, I am. I have been having problems since the 1st winter I've had it. I refuse to continue to pay for services that do not fix the problem. I would love to pass the car on to my son but it's not worth the aggravation.
#538 of 1223 Re: 2005 Saturn Ion Electrical Problems [justjessica]
May 10, 2011 (1:10 pm)
Has the dealership involved technical assistance?
Caron, GM Customer Service
#539 of 1223 Re: 2005 Saturn Ion Electrical Problems [gmcustsvc]
May 10, 2011 (2:49 pm)
They were the one's who initially changed the ignition switch. When I called them to schedule an appointment when it started again they said there were no recalls on anything and replacing the ignition switch was the "correct" fix. They said I could bring it in for a diagnostics that would cost me $150 to figure out the problem and it wouldn't be covered so I took it to an independant mechanic since he was much more affordable. Both my mechanic and I have done much research as to the problem. Everything we've done short of cutting the white wire has been a temporary fix. I have had a new battery, new ignition switch, new passcode, new keys, new tumblers and nothing has worked. The one thing that I have done that lasted the longest was not using the remote security/locks at all. Took the keypad right off my key ring and manuall lock and unlock the doors. That worked for 3 mos or so then the "no start" problem started again.
#540 of 1223 2005 Ion automatic won't start in park or neutral
May 11, 2011 (7:02 am)
I had the passlock problem and replaced the ignition switch my self 2 years ago. Then had the key stuck in the ignition problem. I removed the small access clip under the ignition key and found the release button. I just push the button each time I want my key back. My problem now is that the car will not try to start in either park or neutral at all with the brake peddle depressed. It does not click or try. All looks normal as the key is turned just before the final start position. Passlock light goes out after a few seconds after key is turned. On final turn the dash lights go out - but nothing. I thought the car did not know it was in Park but after much trouble found that I could release from park and put it in neutral by using the emergency park release. Battery is strong, clean contacts. Still no start. Any ideas?
PS: I cannot try the white wire cut since I cannot make it run yet.
#541 of 1223 Re: 2005 Ion automatic won't start in park or neutral [rvsam]
May 11, 2011 (8:30 am)
RVSam: you may just need to put a new fuse in. I think there is an electronic switch which controls how the brake and the shifter interact.It may need a new switch or a fuse..Not sure.