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Saturn Ion Starting Problems

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Re: Continued from #341 [jbekken] by esprix
Sep 09, 2009 (5:51 am)
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Replying to: jbekken (Sep 09, 2009 4:41 am)

Jerry,
 
This sounds a little more serious than the anti-theft device issue, especially considering you've already cut the white wire. Have you taken it to a mechanic to see if it's something else, like your starter or electrical system?
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Re: Continued from #341 [esprix] by jbekken
Sep 09, 2009 (6:02 am)
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Replying to: esprix (Sep 09, 2009 5:51 am)

Thanks for your reply. No I haven't taken it in to a mechanic yet as I really wanted to exhaust any other issues which seem to have plagued other owners. I did not want to act prematurely in taking to mechanic. It does appear as if something could be draining the battery. I am going to take the battery in and have it checked? It doesn't appear to be the ignition switch since the car will start after being jumped. It doesn't appear to be the starter since the care will start after being jumped. Weird.
 
Any further advice?
 
Thank you,
 
Jerry
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Re: Continued from #341 [jbekken] by esprix
Sep 09, 2009 (6:17 am)
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Replying to: jbekken (Sep 09, 2009 6:02 am)

I know how you feel about wanting to do everything you can before taking it in. Good luck!
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Re: Continued from #341 [jbekken] by shadowman2
Sep 09, 2009 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: jbekken (Sep 09, 2009 6:02 am)

Definitely sounds like a dead battery -- the 'clicking' is the giveaway. either you didn't charge it enough after you jumped it or it is incapable of taking a charge. If you have a trickle charger, give it a full charge. If it takes the charge and starts the car your battery may be good. If it won't take enough of a chage to start the car, probably dead. If it takes a charge but discharges overnight, then you probably have a short or something draining it. Alternatively, you can just take it to Autozone or Advance auto (either jump the car or take in just the battery) They can test it in five minutes (for free) and see if all cells are good. DOA is forever -- if the battery is bad, you need to replace it. How old is the battery?? If battery is good, jump the car, recharge it fully, then find out what is causing it to discharge. Good luck.
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Re: Continued from #341 [shadowman2] by jbekken
Sep 09, 2009 (9:25 am)
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Replying to: shadowman2 (Sep 09, 2009 8:03 am)

I took the battery in to Sears this morning before I got this reply. The battery registered that it could not hold a charge. Is it imperative to get a vented battery?
 
Thanks again,
 
Jerry
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Re: Continued from #341 [jbekken] by shadowman2
Sep 09, 2009 (10:34 am)
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Replying to: jbekken (Sep 09, 2009 9:25 am)

Ordinarily the parameters are power and fit -- the battery has to fit in the space and it has to have the CCA to start/run the vehicle. But the Saturn battery may be strange due to its location, e.g., vented/non-vented. And you may have some problems getting the right battery and it will almost certainly be more expensive than a Walmart battery (which would otherwise be fine for any other car). Do NOT let someone stuff just any battery in there. Make sure that it is specific to the car/model. I just did a quick check and Advance auto doesn't list one, but Autozone does. Maybe Sears. Get a battery and you will have treated the symptom. Ascertain the cause -- it might just be old age that caused the battery to fail. After five years it is not out the question that heat and cold and wear and tear just took their toll. But make sure you don't have a problem that killed the last one or it will kill this one as well.
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Re: Continued from #341 [shadowman2] by jbekken
Sep 09, 2009 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: shadowman2 (Sep 09, 2009 10:34 am)

What is the most effective way to determine whether or not something may be draining the battery? Is there a particular test which Saturn mechanics run?
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New battery is where you start by shadowman2
Sep 09, 2009 (1:20 pm)
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They hook up a gizmo and see if there is a flow of current when everything is shut down. Someone else mentioned that the fuse box under the hood sometimes has a bad contact -- good example. I am by no means an electrician. If the battery simply expired of old age -- quite possible -- then you are OK by just replacing it. If you have another problem, it will show up before too long. That's what I usually do -- if the new battery goes dead in a few weeks (or days) it can be because something is draining it ( a short circuit, as above) or because the charging system is not functioning properly. checking to see if it is charging is relatively easy -- the idiot lights/guages in the car may or may not be telling you thr truth. Just pop in a new battery and see what happens. The place that sells you the battery can very easily (and for free) run a check on the charging system..
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Powertrain Module by busdriver9
Sep 09, 2009 (1:47 pm)
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I don't know if this is really related, but I had the cold start problem...I did the white wire mod and that worked for me great. However a short time later I started getting my "CHECK ENGINE" light on intermittently becoming more constant. Then my car would totally loose all power and shut down. It would take about 5 to 10 min before it would restart. So I decided it was time to take the car to the dreaded dealer. I reconnected the white so they didn't try to blame the problem on my wire modification. I took it in, they very quickly found a wire harness that had been rubbing on the motor and had exposed bare wires. Got it replaced and was on my way...until the problem reoccurred the very next morning. After my second visit, and a more thorough inspection they decided that the Powertrain Module was bad and needed replaced. I have been lucky ever since then. I never disconnected the white wire after that either. The best part about that was it was under a federal emissions warranty! I will keep everyone updated but that was 6/16/2009.
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Re: Continued from #341 [shadowman2] by jbekken
Sep 11, 2009 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: shadowman2 (Sep 09, 2009 10:34 am)

Many thanks for taking time to provide advice. I did change out the battery 3 days ago. No problems since. It will be interesting to watch what occurs. All seems good to go for now.
 
Have a great day!
 
Jerry

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