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#336 of 1223 White Wire Cutter Wanna-be....but I can't start the Car...Help!
Aug 22, 2009 (11:45 am)
Thank you all for all of your postings....I own a 2003 Saturn Ion and am having the same kind of problems as everyone else. The car intermitenly won't start for about two years. At first it was very rare...now it happens several times a week. I've had the Ignition Switch replaced by the local Saturn Dealership who of course told us they knew just what it was and acted very confident they could fix it...and I'm sure you're not suprised that $200 later, it didn't fix it...but now they want us to replace the Body Control Module for $600. Hmmm.... We are ready to try the "White Wire Trick" however....the car hasn't started at all for 4 days. So I have read in earlier posts that there might be a way to get it started as a temporary fix, (we had the battery tested and it is fine) so does anyone know a way to get the car running so we can get the White Wire cut?
Thank you sincerely for any advice you may have!
#337 of 1223 Fixed (I think)
Aug 22, 2009 (2:08 pm)
Okay, so I've seen a few variations of the problem and think it would be helpful to first state what my issues were. I have an '03 Ion and like most people, my problem was with the passlock. The car wouldn't turn over every once in a while but after ten minutes it would always start. It went from happening every 6 months or so, to every few months, to every few weeks, to every week. At first I thought it was a winter thing but summer came around and it would happen when it was 75 degree. I should note though that every time the car started after ten minutes. I've seen some messages on here from people that seem to have much more serious problems.
After reading through this thread I considered cutting the white wire but thought that would hurt the resale value, plus I didn't feel incredibly comfortable cutting wires in my car. I went to my dealer who I have a good relationship with and he claimed he knew what the problem was and could fix it for $170. Despite my concern after reading everything on here I decided to take the chance. Nearly three months later, it's started every time since. Just so there's no confusion, this is exactly what it says on my service invoice:
Line 1: C/R ignition switch replacement $170
Tech Comm: Technician replaced ignition switch and reprogrammed
Repair 1: Ignition and start switch replacement
Hope this helps.
#338 of 1223 A MILLION THANKS!
Sep 03, 2009 (9:39 pm)
I searched high and low to solve this ongoing problem when our mechanic told us it needed to go to the dealership. I know that always means $$$, and since we're out of warranty (it's a 2003), I wanted to see if I could solve this on my own.
So, a couple of things that seem worth trying:
1. Cut the white wire that disables the security system. I'm not crazy about the light being on all the time, but it does seem the most successful solution.
2. Install a remote starter. Seems to work for some, and it does sound like fun in the wintertime!
3. Replace the ignition switch. Also seems to work for some, at least for a time, and is a cheap fix.
For now, since the weather's turning cold, I'm going to think on this and decide what to do. In the meantime I'm taking someone's advice and heating up my key with a lighter before starting it, and I'll see how that goes.
Once I decide I hope to come back and report my success! Thank you to EVERYONE for a long but very informative thread!
#339 of 1223 Another white wire question ...
Sep 08, 2009 (6:13 am)
I live in warm southern new mexico and have same intermittent starting problems. I have an 04 Saturn ION. I guess it is the ION 3 as it has full power and sun roof, etc. I have not been able to ever get the the 10 minute suggestion to work. I jump the car and it eventually starts. Last night I cut the white wire with car running (but I had to get it running by jumping) ; I turned car off and restarted and it started just fine. I waited another hour or so and I went outside to start the car and It would not start. Got up this morning and car would not start. I then jumped again and it started. Am I missing something? Do I need to check something else? What is the battery in the trunk actually attached to in the engine compartment?
Thanks for all your help,
#340 of 1223 Update on starting issue Continued from #339
Sep 08, 2009 (7:57 am)
I cut the white wire last night. Car would not start this morning; jumped car; it started. 6:30: Drove 30 miles to work; waited two hours; went outside to restart; it started but was a bit hesitant. 9:10: Drove 30 miles; turned car off; immediately turned car back on; it started. 9:45: Got out of car; used key fob to lock car; immediately unlocked car with key fob; started car; turned car off; tried to start car and it would not start. That was 7 minutes ago. I will go out in another 5 minutes and attempt to restart. It is now 9:57 and I went to restart and car would not restart; I turn on ignition and it clicks. Any suggestions?
Thanks for your help,
#341 of 1223 Update to last two posts .....
Sep 08, 2009 (5:04 pm)
I did the 3 ten minute leave on accessory wait 10 second and at the end turn off and wait 30 seconds and finally start. It didn't start. I jumped the car and it started. So would this indicate that possibly the battery is dying?
Thanks for your help,
#342 of 1223 Continued from #341
Sep 09, 2009 (4:41 am)
It is now 6:30 AM and I go to start the car, which I drove last night after it was jumped, and it won't start. It just clicks when I turn it over. Again, I have clipped the white wire, done the 3 ten minute thing and it wouldn't start. I jumped the car and then it starts. Any suggestions? Any advice would be very, very, welcomed.
#343 of 1223 Re: Continued from #341 [jbekken]
Sep 09, 2009 (5:51 am)
This sounds a little more serious than the anti-theft device issue, especially considering you've already cut the white wire. Have you taken it to a mechanic to see if it's something else, like your starter or electrical system?
#344 of 1223 Re: Continued from #341 [esprix]
Sep 09, 2009 (6:02 am)
Thanks for your reply. No I haven't taken it in to a mechanic yet as I really wanted to exhaust any other issues which seem to have plagued other owners. I did not want to act prematurely in taking to mechanic. It does appear as if something could be draining the battery. I am going to take the battery in and have it checked? It doesn't appear to be the ignition switch since the car will start after being jumped. It doesn't appear to be the starter since the care will start after being jumped. Weird.
Any further advice?
#345 of 1223 Re: Continued from #341 [jbekken]
Sep 09, 2009 (6:17 am)
I know how you feel about wanting to do everything you can before taking it in. Good luck!