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Saturn Ion Starting Problems

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The key by canadianay
Dec 29, 2008 (8:13 am)
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Hello,
 
I'm from Canada and last year I started to have this problem. ION 2003 222,0000 KM now, Works great now. Changed battery, starter, no luck. Thanks for the insight, I have a background as an aircraft mechanic and always looked after my own car. After reading all the information I got an idea. I dug out my original spare key and started to use it. No problems now for a month. This really worked. I think my old regular key has become worn out or worn short. The spare key was never really used. Works great for me . No ignition switch change, no cut wire. Thanks for the insight.
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Re: 06 Saturn Ion ignition solution [robert133] by canadianay
Dec 29, 2008 (8:30 am)
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Replying to: robert133 (Aug 16, 2008 9:37 pm)

Hello,
 
Thanks for the idea. I had trouble with this for about a year. Changed, battery, starter, no luck. After reading your post I got out my spare original key and started to use it. No troubles now for over a month. This realy fixed my problem, thanks.
 
P.S. I live in Canada.
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one problem by tate88
Dec 29, 2008 (10:25 am)
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i have a saturn ion that has the same starting issues. my friends dad fixed hers by cutting the wire that everyone is talking about and hers has been running fine for months now. well because i bought mine in the summer and have had no problems until this winter we just assumed this is what the problem was. we took it over there and he cut the wire doing the exact same thing he did to fix his. he turned it off, started back up 2 different times and it worked. he put the plastic back on and walked inside, when we went to leave it wouldnt start. would anybody know why?
 
it wont crank the key will turn and go through the cycle but we let it do that several
times for a long time and it still is dead. we even tried putting the wire back together and that did no good as well. it is pretty much useless it was just sitting there unable to move, we had to pry it into gear just to put it on a trailer to bring home.
 
friends dad said it might be the ignition switch as well but before i have to spend tons of money i was going to see if anyone else experienced anything like this or might have any ideas. it just doesnt make since why it would start 2 times and then suddenly die.
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Re: one problem [tate88] by bertbaggins
Dec 30, 2008 (6:36 am)
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Replying to: tate88 (Dec 29, 2008 10:25 am)

I'm not being a wise ass, but is the battery charged.
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i know by tate88
Dec 30, 2008 (10:34 am)
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the battery is charged, we thought that was the problem so it had a brand new battery installed by the dealership about 2 weeks ago so i know thats not bad
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by fbordoy
Dec 30, 2008 (1:48 pm)
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I, own a 2004 saturn Ion and have the same problems other have with starting problems,so I decide to replace the ignition switch and did the 30 minutes re-learn process but very unluck ,repeated the re-learn like 3 times and the car did tried to start but dies,like fuel pump not working ,but the fuel pump was working fine before this process,some one told me that it could be the computer,is there any one with the same problem that can help me out,because I agree with other people Dealers charge too much and I cant afford it,please give some advice..thanks...
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by fbordoy
Dec 30, 2008 (5:18 pm)
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Hi every, one I just asking my self,if GM knows about this problem why they dont recall all this malfunction on this particular auto (saturn ions).and we all got stock with it,no wonder no ones wants to spends money on GM products.If all of us saturn owners write a letter to them ,I am sure they will some how responds to this matter and do something about it ,because to honest with you I wont spend any more money on GM cars. :
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solution by tate88
Dec 31, 2008 (2:54 pm)
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well we finally got someone to look at mine, the reason why it wouldnt start is because when we cut the wire it blew a fuse in the column by the driver seat but now we are having a new ignition switch put in and hopefully it will be forever cured!
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Re: May have found an easy solution to the starting problom [bertbaggins] by agawamguy
Jan 01, 2009 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: bertbaggins (Dec 28, 2008 6:08 pm)

OK, I just snipped the white wire and it looks like I'm good.
 
I took pictures and later tonight when I get home from work I'll post them and a detailed write-up on the simple procedure.
 
I was going to install a bypass but I couldn't find anyone to install it for me. I decided to bite the bullet and snip the white wire like Bert just did.
 
Hey Tate88; I could see how you could accidentally pinch a wire when replacing the plastic steering column covers. I made sure I was real careful when I put everything back together.
 
I'll be back!
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Re: May have found an easy solution to the starting problom [agawamguy] by agawamguy
Jan 02, 2009 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: agawamguy (Jan 01, 2009 7:25 am)

OK, if anyone reads through the 170 some odd posts here like I did, you'll see that cutting the white wire is an inexpensive option that disables the entire Passlock system.
 
I have a 2006 ION and here's exactly what I did yesterday while I was at work:
 
I removed the three screws underneath the steering wheel column. I then removed the three piece plastic cover which allows access to the ignition key lock cylinder and ignition switch.
 
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Attached to the ignition switch is a green harness plug. I pulled the harness plug to get better access to the wires. I then removed the electrical tape and found the solid white wire. I seperated the white wire from the bunch.
 
I re-connected the harness plug to the starter switch and started the car.
 
I then cut the white wire and attached wire nuts with electrical tape to each wire so as to secur it propperly. When I looked up, the passlock light was illuminated on the dash panel.
 
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I shut the car off and re-started it several times. With the car off and the key out of the ignition, I very carefully tucked all the wires back into place and re-assembled the plastic steering wheel column.
 
I then parked the car outside in 8 degree New England weather with the windows down for 9 hours and when it was time to go home the car started right up.
 
The dash light stays on constantly but unlike some others, I do not have a service display on the dash.
 
I called the Saturn complain Dept: 866-790-5700 and I filed a complain 888-327-4236 about my troubles with this issue.
 
If GM ever makes a recall and if I still own the car maybe I'll get the fix but for now I'm good.
 
Thanks everybody!

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