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#1079 of 1201 Re: Saturn 04 starting problems [tlc16]
by saturntech9
Jul 15, 2012 (12:38 pm)
Just to clarify something here someone mentioned two saturn techs on here collecting phone numbers trying to help.Those are gm customer service reps just to get that straight.Iam a saturn service tech was one for over 16yrs.Would i own a saturn ion yes i would.My niece has 2003 saturn ion has owned it since new.I replaced her igniton switch with a factory one atleast 4 years ago that was the first one i had replaced in that car.Yes there problems with the switches.Yes i have replaced a lot of them.They redesigned the switch like 3 or 4 times.The problem ran up to the 2006-2007 model year the 2007 was the last year of the saturn ion.I replaced a friends 2006 saturn ion ignition switch about 2 years ago for no starts with a auto zone one that i think is made by wells.It still starts perfect as well as my nices 03.I wouldnt cut any wires especially knowing the fix is a simple one like replacing the ignition switch.There super cheap on amazon you can get a acdelco one for cheap.Tlc16 whats your email address?I will email you instructions and how to relearn the pass lock.
#1080 of 1201 Re: Saturn 04 starting problems [saturntech9]
by dozensaturn
Jul 15, 2012 (2:41 pm)
SaturnTech9,
I am with you in regard to the switch. Redesigned 3 or 4 times? Did they change part number, or how can the most recent design be identified?
I have changed a total of 3 over the years, 2 bought at a GM dealer and 1 at Rockauto. One of the GM dealer sourced switches was 'bad' right out of the box, the other two are still functioning ...
Total ION miles driven well over 1,000,000.
With the exception of the starting problem, the only other problem was keys stuck in ignition on most of ours. Saturn was no help there. Changed 8 or 9 ION's at our expense.
Biggest problem has been lack of support by GM (including Saturn when they were still there) to solve these irritating problems.
Other than that, the Saturn brand was a good brand, from day one to the end. We were indeed sorry to see them go!
Jul 15, 2012 (2:57 pm)
I still say go with the remote start, it cost me about $350 but it was well worth it being as i havent had to scramble around to switch vehicles last minute on the way to work or a drs appt or something of that sort, i had it installed in march and used the remote alot when it was a little chilly, i havent really been using it lately tho being as it has been pretty warm and since the remote doesnt go thru the alarm it doesnt mess w the passlock at all which ive come to believe is the true problem. when i do use the remote the car is already started at the point when i put the key n the ignition ill keep updating as the year goes on but i think ive only had the no start problem once since i got the remote (and that was my fault for not pushing the button instead of using the key to begin w) so one no start in 4 months i cn live w that, thats for sure
#1082 of 1201 Re: 2005 Saturn Ion Electrical Problems [gmcustsvc]
by danieka
Jul 16, 2012 (5:54 pm)
Can you please contact me regarding this problem as soon as possible. I do not want to throw money away on unecessary fixes that do not work. Please email me at mzznieka
yahoo.com.
#1083 of 1201 Re: 2005 Saturn Ion Electrical Problems [danieka]
by gmcustsvc
Jul 17, 2012 (7:42 am)
danieka,
Please email your VIN, current mileage, involved dealer, and complete contact information to me. I look forward to your email.
Christina
GM Customer Service
SocialMedia
GM.com
#1084 of 1201 starting problems
by ohio85
Jul 18, 2012 (7:54 am)
i have a 2003 ion. ive had it for 4 years now. up until this present summer i only had starting problems in cold weather. but now its doing it in warm weather also. i have to wait 14 minutes before i can attempt to start my vehicle again. if i only wait 13 minutes the vehicle will not start and then i have to wait another 14 minutes. my mechanic has no idea of how to fix this problem. ive read on here people suggesting cutting a white wire, replacing the ignition or buying a remote start. can anyone tell me what the best option is from their experience?
#1085 of 1201 Re: starting problems [ohio85]
by saturntech9
Jul 18, 2012 (9:34 am)
Iam very familar with this problem saturn has a bulletin for it in fact.When the ignition switches fail they usually fail and cause a no start when outside temp reaches 40 degrees or lower.What happens is the grease in the switch starts to become a solid and then skews the pass lock sensor readings causing a no start.Then as it gets worse it can happen at warmer temps.So when it doesnt start is the security light on solid or flashing?Also what i can tell is have the guy scan your body control module for codes if he has a more advanced scanner he cando this.If there is a B2960 and or B3033 then you would replace the ignition switch.Also i have seen the no starts with bad ignition switches without any codes.It just all depends how long its been happening etc.
#1086 of 1201 Re: starting problems [saturntech9]
by ohio85
Jul 18, 2012 (9:48 am)
thank you so much for your quick response. as for my security light- i never turn the ignition all the way until the security light goes out. ive found in the past if i try to start the car too quickly it will surely not start. the only thing that i see different is the "service vehicle" light flashes when the no-start problem occurs. its so frustrating. this is my 3rd saturn. the other two were older and didnt have any alarm system at all. i loved those cars. thats why i bought another saturn this time around. i'll definitely have to take my car elsewhere, as my mechanic has equipment circa 1950. haha. im pretty sure this is why he's so cheap.
#1087 of 1201 Alarm/ lock issues
by ionowner
Jul 22, 2012 (9:21 am)
Hello,
I just bought a 2007 Saturn Ion and I have been having two issues. The alarm goes off every five to twenty minutes without anyone touching the car (and without fail!). I have been locking the car with my key so as to not set the alarm...but does anyone know what might be wrong?
On what seems to be a related note, when I am driving the car continuously tries to lock itself.
Any help would be appreciated!
#1088 of 1201 Re: Saturn 04 starting problems [dozensaturn]
by jendsks77
Jul 23, 2012 (6:10 am)
I have a 2007 Saturn Ion my ignition switch sticks & it's currently locked up. My situation is different bc the key isn't stuck in the ignition, I can get the key in but can't get out outta lock mode, very very frustrating. It's currently
the mechanic now he's charging 200+ includes fee for the locksmith to code the key CAN SOMEONE PLZ TELL ME THE CODE TO SAVE ME SOME MONEY THAT I DON'T HAVE!!!! It's hard as hell to find someone to work on a saturn without going to dealer & them fools wanna charge 90-100 just to diagnosis even when we know the issue!!! HELP ME PLZ & thank u!!!