Last post on Dec 11, 2013 at 3:07 PM
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Saturn ION, Electrical, Coupe, Sedan
#1219 of 1228 Re: saturn ion 2006 ignition cylinder housing [jose59]
Nov 01, 2013 (5:06 pm)
You broke the plastic piece inside the ignition housing where the cylinder slides in?If so they don't sell pieces to repair the housings.You will have to replace the whole housing.
#1220 of 1228 Information Overload on my possessed Ion
Nov 25, 2013 (2:22 pm)
So I have been experiencing the bipolar starting issues on my Saturn Ion 2004 2.2l, for about 5 years and just about 100,000 miles. It is more prominent in the cold, but can happen at any time. I have had friends who would pull out the switch for me and re-grease it which would work for about 6-12 weeks. Then I moved up into the mountains and regretted not learning this trick from them. Last spring, I decided to go for a drive on the nearby Blue Ridge parkway, about 20 minutes in, my saturn kicked into limp mode with a blinking engine light and I aptly pulled off at a lookout point and hung out for awhile. The car started up fine after an hour or so, so I turned around and drove probably another 20 or 30 miles home where the problem did not occur. The next morning driving to work at about mile 40 it jumped into limp mode and I pulled off, the car would not start until later that day when some friends came and we reset the battery. I went directly to my mechanic, who had been insisting (due to the starting issue) that we change out the ignition lock and switch. We had to get the part from the dealership, which was 30 miles away. After the dealership sold me the ignition lock and switch unassembled and uncoded, which I had to drive 60 miles for before turning around and having to go back as I had to have it coded by the dealership, which again they had me drive another 60 miles to go back and get the title to prove I owned the car, which they didnt have me do to purchase the darn thing. The entire thing ended up costing me about 400 hundred dollars, time not included. My mechanic installed the part and I drove off, glad it was all over with, this feeling lasted about 10 minutes. I did not even make it home before it went into limp mode, I decided to take it to a different mechanic who was unable to pull any codes from the blinking check engine light, and where it sat for a week receiving no answers. So I signed up for AAA, waited the three day period before I could get a tow, then towed it to the dealership, where they decided it was the ignition housing. They repaired this for $250. I got home, I went to work, it did not go into limp mode up the check engine light came back on, pulling codes for engine misfire and catalyst systems. We were advised by another mechanic to switch out the spark plugs, which we did and reset the battery, but the light came back on so we switched out the coil as well for safe measure. So at this point, I have a check engine light on and a car that only starts between 10 minutes and an hour after I initiate the starting process. I have read a few horror stories on the white wire answer and feel I am at my wits end with this car. I have put soo much money into this car, I have nothing left for a new car. Is there anything else I can do and is it conceivable that these two issues are related?
#1221 of 1228 Re: Information Overload on my possessed Ion [sadsaturnion]
Nov 25, 2013 (2:53 pm)
First of all the ignition lock cylinder and housing has nothing to do with it starting or not starting. If the ignition cylinder wasn't binding all that was replaced for nothing. Also the anti theft willnot cause the ddrivability issues you have. It will only stop the car from intailly starting that's it.So if the car is going into reduced performance mode there is going to be more codes then miss fire codes I can tell you that much.So do you still have the random no starts not counting it went into limp mode died and won't start. Because if you go into limp mode and you shit it off it may not start until the problem goes away.So are they using a professional scan tool to read codes or a diyer a can tool they use to read codes at the auto parts store for free.
#1222 of 1228 Re: Information Overload on my possessed Ion [saturntech9]
Nov 25, 2013 (3:07 pm)
The car has not gone into limp mode since the housing was replaced and no codes were being pulled whatsoever from mechanic shops or from autozone machines when it was going into limp mode, but perhaps the code was pulled at the dealership, that I am not sure. The recent codes were pulled from both an autozone and then again (after we replaced the spark plugs, which one did look a little rough) at an advanced autoparts. As of right now I have the random starting issue, usually occurring once every other day but sometimes as many as three times a day, the car is the sole transportation for myself and another person and we typically have to drive about 300 miles per week...
#1223 of 1228 Re: Information Overload on my possessed Ion [sadsaturnion]
Nov 25, 2013 (4:27 pm)
I apologize for the inconvenience this situation has caused, and understand how important it is to have a properly working vehicle. If you would like for us to look into any recalls or Special Coverage Bulletins listed for your Saturn related to this matter please send us your VIN and current mileage. We can be reached by email at socialmediagm.com [attn Amber]. Please also reference your screen name.
GM Customer Care
#1224 of 1228 Re: 05 Ion 1 won't start after ignition lock replacement [rockfish1]
Dec 09, 2013 (1:01 pm)
I replaced my ignition switch on my 2004 Saturn Ion, and tried the relearn process to no avail
1. I atempted to start ignition...left in run position...the tell/tale signs never went out...so I just waited ten minutes
2. turned igntion off for 5 seconds
3. repeated 1&2 2 more times
4. left it off for 30 sec after the last time
5. then attempted to start again...nothing
Am I missing something? Need to do something else?
#1225 of 1228 Re: 05 Ion 1 won't start after ignition lock replacement [undmyskn58]
Dec 09, 2013 (1:22 pm)
Did it start at all with the old switch?Do you still have the old switch?
#1226 of 1228 Re: 05 Ion 1 won't start after ignition lock replacement [saturntech9]
Dec 11, 2013 (1:16 pm)
It wouldn't start in cold weather..so I replaced the old switch.....yes I do still have the old switch
Dec 11, 2013 (1:55 pm)
Will it start with the old switch?
#1228 of 1228 Re: hey [saturntech9]
Dec 11, 2013 (3:07 pm)
It did start with old switch, when it wasn't too cold. or are you saying I should re-install old switch to see if it will start...of course we have alot of snow outside right now