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#53 of 109 Re: 2005 Chevrolet Uplander-Same problem as Susanssv7 [van_man]
Jan 02, 2012 (7:33 pm)
I just had something similar happen. My 2005 Relay has had the left hub replaced 3 times and the right 2 times. ABS light is almost always on. Once it gets replaced, it only stays off for 6 months. On Saturday (Dec 31), I took it to the shop to have them work on the brakes and get it inspected, it cost me $1,500. While at the shop, they disconnected the battery leads to reset the computer. While in the shop the Relay went into a power saving mode and when I picked up the car, the air and heat don't work. The fan speed works but I cannot select where the air is to come out and if I turn it to cold, it is cold but no AC and if I turn it to hot, I get cold (20 degrees in January). The only position I get any warmth is by putting the knob to the middle of hot and cold. ABS light is finally off, but I need my heat and air location back.
The back windshield wiper has been replaced twice and now it doesn't work anymore. I got it fixed both times under warranty but with about 105,000 miles, it is out of warranty. 33,000 for a wiper motor is WAY TOO SHORT of a lifespan. Especially for a part that is used not even 1/3 of the time.
I am disappointed with GM and what happened to Saturn. The problems with the Relay are definitely making me reconsider GM cars and trucks in the future. I have been buying them since I was in high school but now I may be looking elsewhere.
If anyone has any insight into how to resolve heat and air issue I would greatly appreciate it.
#54 of 109 Re: 2005 Chevrolet Uplander-Same problem as Susanssv7 [hookemhorns05]
Jan 02, 2012 (8:04 pm)
When you had the hub replaced, did they put on a GM part, or aftermarket, such as Timken?
#55 of 109 Re: 2005 Chevrolet Uplander-Same problem as Susanssv7 [hookemhorns05]
Jan 03, 2012 (6:21 am)
It's a cold time of the year to be without heat! I see that you have been working with a shop - is this a GM dealership? If we can set up a Customer Assistance case to further evaluate the situation, please send us an email including the following information: your name and Edmunds username, contact information (phone and address, please), the last 8 digits of your VIN and current mileage, and the name of your preferred dealership.
GM Customer Service
#56 of 109 Re: 2005 Chevrolet Uplander-Same problem as Susanssv7 [rrip]
Jan 05, 2012 (8:33 pm)
Front driver side 3 times (Once for bearing and twice for sensor) and passenger front twice. I think the first time for both sides and GM part, all the other were aftermarket. Ironically, the most recent have lasted the longest.
Look for an email.
#57 of 109 Re: 2005 Chevrolet Uplander-Same problem as Susanssv7 [gmcustsvcsarah]
Feb 15, 2012 (12:05 pm)
I have a 2008 Uplander with a similar problem. The ABS, Traction Control and Stability Control lights came on at approximately 30,000 miles and was covered under warranty. This time (at 85,000 miles) I'm getting a warning light for the Traction and Stability Control, but no ABS light. Doug Chevrolet told me it might still be covered under the powertrain warranty; if not then $109 to diagnose. Of course the diagnosis was not a warranty fix and the estimate is $1,200. Their diagnosis is a bad EBCM, which actuates both the TC/SC and ABS. I told them logically it couldn't be the ABS, as it still works. I took it to another shop, paid them $450 for a new EBCM and of course the light is still on because as I said, the EBCM is not the problem.
I've also taken this to four different Chevrolet dealers (Sims, now closed; Classic and Pat O'Brien) for a service engine light that has been on intermittently since 24,000 miles, and three dealers for a clunk in the front suspension which O'Brien wrote me a note they'd extend the warranty. Here's a good one - the indicator for the turn signals quit clicking (lights still work) and three technicians in 45 minutes couldn't figure out where the indicator is at. I've spoken with GM Customer Service, who seem oblivious to the real issue - I can't keep taking off from work and doing without a vehicle, for nothing to get fixed.
BTW, my mother's 2006 Montana has same problem with Traction Control/Stability Control warning light. She can write her own post, I have enough problems to deal with on this piece of crap.
If anyone has any idea why the TC/SC light would come on intermittently, the service engine light comes on intermittently, the turn signals don't work, etc. etc. I'd love to hear them. BTW Sarah - don't suggest I take it back to the dealer. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting to get a different outcome. As I told the dealer (the third time they cleaned/replaced the fuel injectors) - if you bought a house and the faucet clogged up, and the builder replaced it over and over every month for a year; you might eventually come to the conclusion that there's nothing wrong with the faucet...
#58 of 109 RE: 2008 Chevy Uplander Problem Child
Mar 01, 2012 (1:05 pm)
I too have a 2008 Chevy Uplander and it is also plagued with ABS, traction control, stability control warning lights coming on. About a year ago (after several months of the lights coming on and off intermittently), I finally broke down and took it in and spent over $2000 to supposedly fix the problem. The lights did go off for a while, but every so often when I would brake, the van would shudder and make a terrible sound (one of my children compared it to going over the rough pavement that is put down so that you know that you are about to see a stop sign and need to prepare to stop). I took it back to the shop and they couldn't find anything wrong with it. Now my warning lights are back on all the time and the van makes the terrible sound/shuddering the vast majority of the time that I use the brakes. On the bright side, I am prettty sure that the other drivers around me are too scared of my grinding, shuddering car to follow too closely. In addition, my turn signal also doesn't make a sound--except for when I forget to turn it off and the alarm goes off after I have gone several miles. This occurred earlier in the first year of ownership and was fixed under the warranty. Now that I am at 57,000, I am told that it will cost right around $500 to fix. And finally, my AC went out in August--for the second time. I live in Georgia and AC is a good thing, especially in a van where my children can't open the windows enough to get a breeze. I bought this van because I really wanted to support the "Made in America" movement, but I am so incredibly frustrated and disappointed. I am now trying to decide if it is time to cut my losses and buy a Toyota! In the mean time, does anyone know if I am risking my life--and that of my children--by driving this vehicle?
#59 of 109 RE: 2008 Chevy Uplander Problem Child [4boysmom]
Mar 01, 2012 (2:08 pm)
Well I have previously commented in this thread and am still an owner of a 2005 Buick Terraza. My terraza has had pages of problems that I have had to fix. Since I commented last I have changed both front hub assemblies, and had two more sets of tires put on, and brakes twice. I now have 141,000 miles on my van. (the deathtrap-as my kids call it) Has my life or my childrens life been in danger????? I felt really uncomfortable when traveling down the interstate at 65 miles an hour and the brakes would randomly lock up for a split second. I had to always be ready for anything because most often if you would hit a bump in the road you could predict it but then it got completely random. If you can afford it-Get RID of it. I have mine paid off and am saving $$ for a new vehicle....(didn't even bother with the American made lots when deciding on my new car)
They can't fix it!!! They can do something to the computer to take away the messages but they will return because I believe there is no fix. You can open a case with GM but you will take it to the dealership they will make the message go away for about a week longer than your case complaint is open. Been there done that. I know I sound jaded but that hunk of junk took me 5 years to pay off 5 long years!!!!.....Sell it, trade it, RUN and don't look back!!!!!
#60 of 109 RE: 2008 Chevy Uplander Problem Child [4boysmom]
Mar 01, 2012 (7:15 pm)
this is a problem with many uplanders including mine,there needs to be a class action law suit to get this repaired,there has been no recall on this and gm has to know there is a problem,as there is also a problem filling the tank,you can get another three gallons in the tank if you take the time to keep clicking pump and let the gas subside in the tank after 3 or 4 minutes of repeating fill.My 2008 uplander is great other than stated above,my light has been going off for 40,000 miles I decided not to get it fixed.I know there is a problem with the harness for the stabilty control and yet no recall what does that tell you about G/M.
#61 of 109 RE: 2008 Chevy Uplander Problem Child [4boysmom]
Mar 02, 2012 (5:32 am)
Good morning 4boysmom,
Although your experience hasn't been as smooth as it could have been, thank you for supporting the "Made in America" movement. If we can look into this further with you, please send us an email at the address located in my profile with more information (include your name/Edmunds username, phone and address, the last 8 digits of your vehicle's VIN and current mileage, and the name of your involved dealership).
We look forward to hearing from you,
GM Customer Service
#62 of 109 Service ABS light on (again!)
Mar 16, 2012 (9:30 pm)
I own a 2006 Uplander with 99007 miles on it. The service ABS light is on again. It just came on tonight. Conveniently, my warranty I purchased through Carmax has just expired about 200 miles ago. Approximately 7 months ago I had it in to Carmax for the same issue. It was in the shop for 3.5 out of a 5 week period due to the same problem. The first time I picked it up from repair I drove away, and had problems within a few miles. Strange noises, pedal sinking to the floor, brakes not grabbing etc. Eventually it was fixed after being taken back to Carmax, and then sent to the Chevy dealership, where they had to replace the computer that controls the ABS sytem. I would expect that since it was just fixed 7 months ago that I would not experience the same problem. I am constantly having to repair the brakes on this van due to vibrations and a feeling of them not functioning properly at freeway speeds, or on downhills. Now that the light is on, I'm assuming it is the same problem.
I've already had the van in for brake sensors to be replaced a few times. It has also had the transmission rebuilt at 55000 miles, and the passenger power door was opening on it's own, refusing to close, making chime noises and opening while driving, etc. The driver's side power door is now starting to have the same problems. The interior light controller had to be replaced, the backlights on the dashboard went out at night in the rain on the freeway, those were fixed. I don't think we've gotten through an entire year without this van needed some major repair work.
To say it is the worst car I've ever owned would be an understatement. We were the proud owners of an 01 Venture that we got 137000 miles out of with no issues. Unfortunately it was totaled in a rollover accident. We decided to purchase another Chevy minivan since we had a great experience with our Venture (purchased new). We purchased the Uplander from Carmax. They have been wonderful and have stood behind the vehicle they sold us with their MaxCare extended warranty. I am grateful to Carmax for the way they have handled this lemon they sold us. When we purchased it, it only had 8900 miles on it, and was in phenomenal shape. We felt we had made another good solid purchase buying a Chevy minivan. What a huge mistake. It is doubtful we will EVER purchase another American vehicle. Least of all a Chevy. This van is an absolute piece of crap, and I don't feel safe driving our daughters in it. Unfortunately we are stuck with it for at least another 9 months while we save up to replace it. My question for all of you; What can I do about this ABS light message? Would that system really need repair again after such a short period of time? If it does, why is GM not standing behind what they've built? Why hasn't this van been recalled for all of these issues? I came across this forum tonight and am blown away by how many people have the EXACT same problems with these vans. I realize this van is a 2006 but it has been one headache after the other since we purchased in Jan 2007! Seriously disappointed.