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Re: s-Plan Pricing Quote? [seloo] by live2ski
Jan 18, 2008 (12:52 pm)
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Replying to: seloo (Jan 18, 2008 12:18 pm)

Seloo - there are always going to be fees whether you see them in a line item or not. Profit is a fee. If you bump up the invoice $150 and remove the LA fee - now you got a better deal? or better yet, raise invoice $200 and get the car $25 below invoice - now you got a great deal
 
I agree that you should try and get most if not all fees removed, but it's not a deal breaker if you get a good price on the car (in the buyer's opinion) and still pay a small fee. if you can't afford the $150 fee, you should not be buying a $40k car.
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Re: s-Plan Pricing Quote? [live2ski] by seloo
Jan 18, 2008 (1:23 pm)
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Replying to: live2ski (Jan 18, 2008 12:52 pm)

Your point is valid, playing with the numbers is just part of the game.
 
The problem is that the dealerships are making up new names for these fees faster than the consumer can keep up with them. I know that the dealer has to make a buck, but at least they can be honest about it!
 
Between the Prep Fee, Doc Fee, and the whatever fee, these fees can add $500 to $1000 to the price of a car and turn a sweet deal into a sour one.
 
Good Luck to all & watch out for the fees!
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Re: s-Plan Pricing Quote? [seloo] by live2ski
Jan 18, 2008 (2:27 pm)
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Replying to: seloo (Jan 18, 2008 1:23 pm)

The Destination charge is the one I'd like to see removed, but that seems nearly impossible to do.
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Re: s-Plan Pricing Quote? [seloo] by laker34
Jan 18, 2008 (2:36 pm)
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Replying to: seloo (Jan 18, 2008 12:18 pm)

Funny...anyway, since I got the car $1000 below invoice ($850 if you want to include the $150) I felt okay with the deal. Another issue is if all the dealers in the So Cal area are charging the same fee, there is no way around it...unless I sit there and argue for 5 hours...opportinity cost comes into play.
 
By the way, I have a 30 year fixed rate mortgage...thanks for caring!
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Re: s-Plan Pricing Quote? [laker34] by redline122
Jan 18, 2008 (2:50 pm)
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Replying to: laker34 (Jan 18, 2008 2:36 pm)

At the end of the day... it's all about being happy when you leave the dealership... or it could just be that ignorance is bliss!
 
Heck for all we know... the 40K CX-9 (fully loaded) may in fact cost about 18K to produce and the manufacturer will "sell" to the dealer for 20K... and we all see the invoice at 36K. It's all relative - it's not like we insist on seeing the "accounting books" on how much value/money they had in the vehicle they are trying to sell you.
 
Edmunds TMV, Consumer Reports Bottom Line Price, etc., etc., there's always a "profit" in the numbers.
 
seloo - it would be nice if we could just get full honest disclosure on what we are paying for. Heck, if they were 100% honest and clear about what they are charging me, I may be more susceptible to paying for a fee it was truly legit.
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looking for 2007 cx9 touring white w/tan by buyer08
Jan 18, 2008 (6:29 pm)
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What would be a good price for a 2007 CX9 touring AWD? This will be my first car purchase on my own. I've read other posts that say a price around invoice is good.
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Pricing for GT AWD by ceric
Jan 21, 2008 (7:49 pm)
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I am in the market for a CX-9 GT AWD.
I found three dealers in SF Bay Area that offered me invoice minus $500. This was after two e-mail exchange (not much negotiation). In general, I found that there are more FWD models available on their lots. They may be even more willing to negotiate but I am not sure by how much you can get.
Just for your information.
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Re: looking for 2007 cx9 touring white w/tan [buyer08] by nxs138
Jan 21, 2008 (9:20 pm)
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Replying to: buyer08 (Jan 18, 2008 6:29 pm)

For a 2007 model, you should aim for at least $2k under invoice since the 2008 models have been out for several months now and dealers are clearing the 2007 models out of their lots.
 
Now if you meant to say a 2008 model, it seems you might get a few hundred dollars below invoice. I was quoted invoice without really haggling on a 2008 model, so if they get desperate I'm sure they'll go lower.
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Good Deal or Not? by bpquinn77
Jan 27, 2008 (7:46 am)
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I was at the local Mazda dealer yesterday, and after much negotiation, they tried to sell me on a monthly payment deal. After taking all of the information that they gave me, I told them I would let them know on Monday. After backing the payment into a Present Value, adding in our down payment and offered trade in value, I came up with a purchase price of $34,600
 
1. I think that they undervalued my trade in by about 1500 based on KBB values. Is that reliable to use as a negotiation starting point?
 
2. If I get another 1k in trade in, that will lower my purchase price to 33,600.
 
The car is the 2008 GT CX-9. Additional options are Moonroof/ Bose package.
 
Is it a good deal?
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Re: Good Deal or Not? [bpquinn77] by seloo
Jan 27, 2008 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: bpquinn77 (Jan 27, 2008 7:46 am)

I would start again, most of the time monthly payment deals are not good deals for the buyer.
 
You need to know the invoice price of the car (with no dealer add ons). check edmunds.com
 
What is the selling price of the car (w/o TT&L or extra fees). (Compare that price to others posted on this board)
 
What non-related TT&L fees are they trying to charge you (Doc Fee, Ad Fee, etc...).
 
As for the trade, you really need to know the true value of your car, KBB provides some guidelines, but that is not what a car appraiser uses to determine the value. Understand the better deal you get on the price of the car, the lower amount they will give you on your trade. This can be tricky. My advice would be to keep the trade as a separate transaction.
 
What are the terms of the financing?
 
Until you fully understand all aspects of your deal, do not sign anything!
 
Good Luck!

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