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S-Plan Pricing Quote? by monroviamom
Jan 14, 2008 (8:22 pm)
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I live in Southern CA & am trying to purchase a GT FWD CX-9 (2008) - Copper Mica Red w/ Sand Interior. So far, the best deal I have includes:
 
                       S-Plan Price MSRP
  
CX-9 $30,842.00 $33,355.00
BMSM $172.00 $200.00
GT Assist Pkg $2,150.00 $2,500.00
Moonroof/Bose $1,514.00 $1,760.00
Transportation $535.00 $635.00 (same as destination fee)
L.A.Assessment $150.00 $0.00 (WHAT IS THIS??)
  
Total $35,463.00 $38,450.00
  
Roof Rails $350.00 $420.00 (they have to add on)
Homelink Mirror $595.00 $695.00 (they have to add on)
  
Total w/Accessories
                           $36408.00 $39,549.00
  
Tax/Fees/Lic/Reg $3,372.95 $3,652.08
  
Sub Total after $500 Rebate
                          $39,280.95 $42,701.08
  
They are offering me a $500 rebate to offset the over-priced dealer add-ons (so essentially, I am back to s-plan/invoice pricing.
 
Please let me know what you all think... also, what is the $150 LA Assessment fee? Is that a negotiated way the dealers can make a bit more $$$ with the S-plan pricing?
 
Any advise would be welcomed!
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Re: S-Plan Pricing Quote? [monroviamom] by redline122
Jan 14, 2008 (11:41 pm)
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Replying to: monroviamom (Jan 14, 2008 8:22 pm)

Hi there!
 
The S-Plan does not necessarily reflect the lowest price you will pay for the vehicle - it just provides more of a hassle-free experience with the dealer.
 
So let me get this straight:
The factory built out CX9 is:
GT/FWD - 33355
BSM - 200
GT Assist - 2500
Moonroof/Bose/Changer - 1760
Grand Total for MSRP = 37815.00
Grand Total/S-Plan = 34678
S-Plan savings from MSRP = 3137
 
The dealer has agreed to add on the roof rails and the mirror at the S-Plan price correct?
 
Roof rails - 420
Homelink - 695
Grand Total for MSRP plus dealer add-ons = 38930
Grand Total plus dealer add-ons/S-Plan = 35623
S-Plan savings from (MSRP+Dealer Add-ons) = 3307
 
As for the LA Assessment fee, I would really press on the dealer what this cost is all about? The destination fee is potentially padded as well, as you can see in your S-Plan pricing.
 
Just as an FYI, I had an MSRP of 39300 and was able to get it down to 35000 in Southern California - no S-Plan discounts, just playing hardball. Getting approximately 1K off MSRP is the typical deal that the dealer would be happy to give any anxious customer. The S-Plan seems like it's a better deal than the typical deal, but it can be better. It's a little funny how the dealer is willing to show their invoice paper work - yes it IS padded! The invoice price on my vehicle was 36175. I started at the ungodly price of 33000 and worked up to 35000.
 
The big question...
Did you start real low on the negotiations and then work up to the S-Plan price? Or did you not want to deal with the haggle and used the S-Plan tactic from the get-go?
 
Remember, if you never ASK, the answer is always NO. Good luck.
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Re: S-Plan Pricing Quote? [monroviamom] by seloo
Jan 15, 2008 (3:05 am)
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Replying to: monroviamom (Jan 14, 2008 8:22 pm)

NO DEAL!
 
At least $1K below the invoice price with no extra fees or add-ons.
 
Watch out, on some of these deal they add the Des. Fee twice. Once as part of the invoice price, then an additional charge.
 
Do your homework.
 
Best of Luck!
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Re: S-Plan Pricing Quote? [monroviamom] by live2ski
Jan 15, 2008 (11:30 am)
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Replying to: monroviamom (Jan 14, 2008 8:22 pm)

I purchased with s-plan and there was a $200 Denver Assessment Fee on mine. I find it interesting that the Assessment fee is on s-plan but not MSRP, unlike the Dest charge which is the same. this leads me to believe that it is padding can be removed.
 
I found the s-plan pricing to be fair for both parties. In my case the process was quick and painless and I'm enjoying my CX-9 now. It can't hurt to ask for more discounts, but at some point it comes down to $ saved vs. time negotiating and dealing with the saleperson. you could spend a month haggling for another $500 or enjoy your car now.
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Re: S-Plan Pricing Quote? [seloo] by redline122
Jan 15, 2008 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: seloo (Jan 15, 2008 3:05 am)

Excellent advice, seloo. It appears that monroviamom already had taken delivery of the vehicle and is happy with the S-Plan pricing - which is very near the dealer's invoice price.
 
You are correct about the extraneous fees that pad the price of the vehicle. I asked my dealer to explain exactly what the transportation fee and the assessment fee pays for. They really couldn't give a clear explanation for it. Eventually, the affect was getting 1175 below the invoice on the vehicle on my delivery. I've realized that the pricing that people may get from any purchasing plans (Mazda's S-Plan, Infiniti's VPP) may not be the best deal that can be had on the vehicle, but offers the least hassle. As monroviamom put it, less stress maybe worth the hundreds of dollars you spend after you equate the purchase price plus interest (if financed) or higher lease payment (if leased).
 
At the end of the day, the goal of any dealer is... Did the customer leave our lot feeling happy about the purchase?... even if he/she doesn't know how much money was left on the table? That's the ultimate goal. Heck, the manufacturers and dealers have caught on to the fact that Edmunds TMV and Consumer Reports Bottomline Pricing can be used to their advantage. Those estimates are just as padded as any S-Plan!
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Re: S-Plan Pricing Quote? [monroviamom] by vinsuz
Jan 15, 2008 (1:42 pm)
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Replying to: monroviamom (Jan 14, 2008 8:22 pm)

I was negotiating over an '08 AWD GT this past weekend when the salesman showed me the invoice. It was almost identical to Edmunds' invoice except for the "Pittsburgh assessment". I asked the guy what that was, and he said it's a fee charged on behalf of Pittsburgh area Mazda dealers for advertising. Needless to say, I did't buy their BS or their CX-9!
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Re: S-Plan Pricing Quote? [vinsuz] by redline122
Jan 15, 2008 (5:47 pm)
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Replying to: vinsuz (Jan 15, 2008 1:42 pm)

Well, I'm sure they will call you back in a day or two to sweeten the deal some more.
 
Unless you've already bought another vehicle elsewhere.
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Re: S-Plan Pricing Quote? [redline122] by seloo
Jan 15, 2008 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: redline122 (Jan 15, 2008 1:16 pm)

Good post.
 
When one fully understands the TV of money, they will work very hard not to leave any extra on the table.
 
These days 90% of the deal can be done over the Internet, with the balance at the dealership.
 
Saves time, money, (feelings) with less hassle.
 
I agree the S-Plan is not a bad price (without fees), but many people pay too many extra fees. The dealer does not lose any money on a S-Plan deal, but they can make a lot from fees.
 
Your deal represents yet another 1K+ deal under invoice for this car. If you do not get the price you want, then walk away. Good Luck to all!
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Re: S-Plan Pricing Quote? [redline122] by redline122
Jan 15, 2008 (5:52 pm)
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Replying to: redline122 (Jan 15, 2008 1:16 pm)

Sheesh...I got my wires crossed when reading ski's post, thinking it was monroviamom.
 
Let me rewind and assume that monroviamom has NOT taken delivery of the vehicle.
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cx-9 seattle by aamir
Jan 16, 2008 (2:11 pm)
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Hi,
 
Any buyers of cx9 in the seattle....if any got good deals pl let me know the dealer....i'm considering one & would like to get some insight on pricing....wanted to go for 08 Touring CX9

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