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Mazda CX-9 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Happy Halloween by pf_flyer HOST
Oct 30, 2007 (7:35 am)
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Time again for our weekly gathering of enthusiasts! maybe we shold make tonight a costume chat!
 
The Mazda Club Chat is on tonight. The chat room opens at 8:45PM ET Hope to see YOU there! Check out the schedule
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Re: Just got the CX-9 [mdhutton] by vinnyny
Oct 30, 2007 (6:15 pm)
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Replying to: mdhutton (Oct 29, 2007 4:17 pm)

While I agree that NADA always gives the highest trade value, KBB gives the highest retail value, the lowest non-auction trade-in value and the largest spread between the two. KBB is totally slanted in the dealer's favor. Of course, that doesn't stop the shameless thieves from offering you $2k under KBB trade for your spotless cream puff. A dealer will rarely show you KBB, but he knows you're looking at it on your own.
 
Please don't respond with: "Dealers offer you lower than KBB trade-in because those numbers include all the overallowances dealers make." Even if that's true, it also includes deals signed by all the poor bastards who give their cars away--you know, all those people who can barely write and believe that whatever car they're driving actually is "soft on the market right now". I was in a Honda dealer this weekend looking for another Odyssey and heard a sales manager tell the guy in the next cubicle: "Well you know, the Prius is a little soft on the market now because the tax credit is going away".
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Re: Just got the CX-9 [vinnyny] by mdhutton
Oct 30, 2007 (9:31 pm)
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Replying to: vinnyny (Oct 30, 2007 6:15 pm)

Vinnyny - I don't disagree. I think we're making the same point actually. If more consumers would convince themselves that KBB is a much more accurate value of what their trade is worth, there would be less animosity in the negotiation process.
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Re: Just got the CX-9 [vinnyny] by mdhutton by vinnyny
Oct 31, 2007 (1:32 am)
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"If more consumers would convince themselves that KBB is a much more accurate value of what their trade is worth, there would be less animosity in the negotiation process"
 
We'd also have less animosity if car buyers drank six martinis and downed a couple hits of valium before they started negotiating, then KBB would seem to make more sense.
 
When trading a car, KBB can only be used against you--the same goes for buying a used car. In either case, a dealer showing you KBB to support his price is trying to add false credibility to his low trade offer or high retail price. Consumers should NEVER rely on KBB values or they will lose every time.
 
I think Edmunds offers the most realistic values on used cars and have bought and sold several cars within $500 of the Edmunds retail/trade/private party values. (I'm not such a big fan of TMV, which tends to be too high).
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Re: Just got the CX-9 [vinnyny] by mdhutton [vinnyny] by carlitos92
Oct 31, 2007 (3:59 am)
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Replying to: vinnyny (Oct 31, 2007 1:32 am)

If you're trying to make the point that KBB is always low, it's a weak argument. For the three cars I've owned within the last year, the KBB trade-in value was lower that Edmunds on only two of them, and then only by 1% and 4%, respectively. On the third car, KBB was higher than Edmunds by 2%.
 
Is 4% worth fighting for in a car deal? Sure. But my experience says that the "KBB is bad" theory is inconclusive, and that as a rule, KBB is a decent pricing guideline, just as Edmunds is.
 
-c92
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Re: Best Deals [seloo] by seloo
Nov 04, 2007 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: seloo (Oct 28, 2007 3:17 pm)

Please post your deal in terms of $ under the invoice price.
       
07 CX-9 $0 under invoice. At invoice.
       
08 CX-9 $500 under invoice.
  
Includes rebates.
 
Surely, someone can beat these numbers, they are not overly impressive.
     
Keep posting those good deals.
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Mazda Cradit Application Online by perseus1206
Nov 05, 2007 (11:08 am)
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I'm looking to make a purchase today on a CX-9 GT AWD. I'm looking to quickly make a transaction (received all Quotes) and getting the car for 200 under invoice. Is it wise to apply for Mazda credit prior to going into the dealership or should I wait? My credit score is excellent from all three companies. Please advise
 
Thank you
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Re: Mazda Cradit Application Online [perseus1206] by carteach
Nov 05, 2007 (12:01 pm)
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Replying to: perseus1206 (Nov 05, 2007 11:08 am)

I think you should not apply for credit until the deal is sealed. at least that's how I did it. Do you have another cara loan in place?
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Re: Mazda Cradit Application Online [carteach] by perseus1206
Nov 05, 2007 (12:16 pm)
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Replying to: carteach (Nov 05, 2007 12:01 pm)

Thanks for the reply. I do have another car loan approval in place but it's not as good as the 1.9% they are offering for 36 months. The other loan through my CU is around what they are offering for 60 Mterm Fin loan. I have read that sometimes the interest rate spread from what you apply online is diff from what F&I manager will give you. I guess I will go in there and see what happens.
 
Did anyone recieve the 1.9% financing terms and what FICO score does Mazda look for to get these rates? 725 800?
 
Thanks
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Re: Best Deals [seloo] by dash5
Nov 08, 2007 (7:46 pm)
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Replying to: seloo (Nov 04, 2007 10:32 am)

I was hoping to get some help on what a "good deal" would be for an '08 CX-9 GT with AWD, the Nav package and moonroof package. Mazda calls it "2PA Grand Touring Assistance Package" and "1MC Moonroof and Bose Audio Package"
 
Edmunds gives me: MSRP:$39,510 Invoice:$36,300 TMV: $39,060
 
Put it this way, 39k is not what I'm looking to spend on my next vehicle. I was looking to go 36 tops and preferably 34ish. I'm guessing I'll have to take off the Nav package to get in that range, but am I looking to get the car for about 500 over invoice? TMV is so high it's kind of throwing me. I could use some advice.

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