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Mazda CX-9 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: Just got the CX-9 [warever] by madscientist3
Oct 28, 2007 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: warever (Oct 28, 2007 11:12 am)

First of all, I am not upside down on the lease. The buyout is 21K and the blue book value is 25K. So I was basically handing the dealer an additional 4k. Which makes me wonder why they wouldn't do the deal.
 
If you wait until your lease is up you have to pay wear and tear and excess milage charges. If you can find a dealer to take it off your hands as a trade, your much better off. Besides, if you wait until the lease is up, your in a desperate position to buy a car. I'd rather have the leverage of being able to walk out the door and still have a car. These are a few reasons why I'm not leasing my next car.
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"Boston Assessment" by jintorcio
Oct 28, 2007 (1:48 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jan 21, 2007 8:01 pm)

Negotiating on 2008 CX-9 using "S-Plan" partner discount. Dealer assessing $440 "Boston Assessment" fee. Is this legit? Should I pay it?
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S-Plan Discount by jintorcio
Oct 28, 2007 (1:52 pm)
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Replying to: jintorcio (Oct 28, 2007 1:48 pm)

Also... Anybody found anything documented on this $500 S-plan discount? How do I get that out of dealer?
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Re: Best Deals [seloo] by seloo
Oct 28, 2007 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: seloo (Oct 23, 2007 1:47 pm)

Please post your deal in terms of $ under the invoice price.
      
07 CX-9 $0 under invoice. At invoice.
      
08 CX-9 $500 under invoice.
 
Includes rebates.
    
Keep posting those good deals.
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Looking at buying 2008GT CX-9 by nm1675
Oct 28, 2007 (7:19 pm)
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I'm looking at buying a 2008GT CX-9, and don't know much about Mazda. What is the relationship between Ford and Mazda? What major parts of the CX-9 are Ford parts? Do you think one could get as much wear out of a CX-9, and as little long term problems as you may with Pilot or Highlander?
 
I'm looking at 2008GT CX-9 with moonroof and Bose package. Any feedback on quotes or what you paid is greatly appreciated!
 
Thank you!
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Legit Tactic by madscientist3
Oct 29, 2007 (6:06 am)
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Replying to: nm1675 (Oct 28, 2007 7:19 pm)

I've pretty much agreed with dealer on price and financing for purchase of CX-9 sport at invoice. The only holdback is that I am currently in a lease with 7 months to go on a Pilot. The dealer is trying to put the remaining payments into the purchase price. The buyout on the lease is 21K, the bluebook resale price on the Pilot is 25K. So, it looks like the dealer is trying to get $1800 from me for the remaining 7 months so he can sell my car for a double profit.
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Re: Legit Tactic [madscientist3] by vinnyny
Oct 29, 2007 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: madscientist3 (Oct 29, 2007 6:06 am)

Put your truck in the paper and take it to CarMax. If you can get $21k for it, then you get to keep your $1800. I was surprised by what CarMax offered me on my BMW...
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Re: Legit Tactic [vinnyny] by madscientist3
Oct 29, 2007 (7:50 am)
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Replying to: vinnyny (Oct 29, 2007 7:11 am)

I found a dealer offering $28,700 for CX-9 sport w/ power seat and they are willing to take my leased vehicle off my hands. This is pretty much invoice price but does not include the $500 national rebate(which I assume the dealer is keeping for them self.) Pretty good deal?
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Re: Just got the CX-9 [madscientist3] by warever
Oct 29, 2007 (10:42 am)
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Replying to: madscientist3 (Oct 28, 2007 12:28 pm)

WHICH Blue Book value? Very few dealers actually are willing to give anything NEAR even the TRADE-IN value at the condition the car is in (i.e., if the car is in "Good" condition, they likely won't give the "good" trade-in value).
 
If your buyout is $21K, chances are that the dealer isn't giving you anything beyond that and possibly even below that. Think about it... if the buyout on YOUR car is $21K, in most cases, the dealer can negotiate a slightly lower price from the leasing company. On ANY car. So why would they give YOU that or higher when they can just as easily get it elsewhere? They're only going to do it if it is profitable.
 
Dealers RARELY sell the cars that they take as trades (retail, that is). Most of the time, they'll simply put the car out to auction and some other dealer will buy it. About the only time they'll keep the car and put in the expense of fixing it up and selling it is if it is a very popular vehicle that they can easily sell, is in nearly perfect condition so it doesn't require much expense to put it into saleable condition, and if they got it for a great price and can sell it for a much higher price. So they're not going to be making as much as you might think on your vehicle because they're probably just selling it at auction.
 
By the way, I looked up the KBB Trade-In values on a 2004 Honda Pilot (I'm assuming that's the year) and it is about $19K on the HIGH side in EXCELLENT condition. Like I said, most dealers aren't going to give you any better than "poor" value no matter what (and on a Pilot, that's about $16K). KBB is just not an accurate indicator of pricing.
 
You have a point if there's excess wear and tear and excess mileage. You can probably calculate that and see how much it would cost you... it should be in your contract about excess mileage (and you can easily calculate how much mileage you'll expect to have at the end). You can also get an estimate from anyone on any damage to at least get an idea of what it might cost (and there's no law that says you can't FIX any "excess wear and tear" before turning in the car).
 
Like I said, sometimes there's a financial reason for getting a new car early.
 
As to leverage on a new vehicle and being able to shop around, how long is that REALLY going to take you? A month? Two? Surely not 7. So maybe you should hang onto your Pilot for another 5 months, have less of an overlap (money thrown out), and still have time to negotiate on a new vehicle and still be able to buy out your current lease to avoid excess mileage.
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Re: Just got the CX-9 [warever] by madscientist3
Oct 29, 2007 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: warever (Oct 29, 2007 10:42 am)

My lease vehicle is actually a 2005, not 2004. They ended up taking the vehicle and got a deal of 28500 including destination charges.

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