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Check With Your Employer's HR for Discounts... by eujung
Oct 11, 2007 (1:38 pm)
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We bought our 2008 FWD CX-9 GT at Sutherlin Mazda in Georgia and had a great experience.
 
If you are looking to buy this or any car, and you work for a "decent" size company (I work for IBM), check with your HR department to see if you company has a discount arrangement with Ford/Mazda.
 
Our CX-9 GT, with Moonroof/Bose, Navigation, Towing Package, Roof Rails and Retractable Cargo Cover was $38,200, walk off the lot (after tax and other fees). I haven't done a lot of the number crunching but I think this was a pretty good price. Does anyone feel like confirming or contrasting my notion of a good price? The tax was 6%.
 
Thanks,
 
Happy CX-9 Owner
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Is this a good price? by psycho6
Oct 12, 2007 (6:07 am)
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I'm totally new both to this forum and to negotiating to buy/lease a car, so any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
I'm in Houston. I'm going to have to order my CX-9 to get exactly what I want, which is a Grand Touring with GT Assistance package, Rear-seat entertainment system, Blind-Spot Monitoring, Auto-dimming mirror, Sirius, all-weather floor mats, and wheel locks. I received a quote for invoice price. Is that good, or should I be looking for under invoice?
 
Thanks very much!
 
psycho6
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Re: Check With Your Employer's HR for Discounts... [eujung] by kbedwards
Oct 12, 2007 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: eujung (Oct 11, 2007 1:38 pm)

Sounds decent eujung, but not sure you really got a discount (of course where you are/demand/availability does change things a bit).
 
I paid $38K out the door for a very similar model (they had to order from another dealer):
 
08 GT FWD CX9
Assist package
Rear Ent. package
Towing pack
Home link/Compass mirror
wheel locks
 
I think I did "ok" but probably could have done better based on what I have been reading here, although salesman (not the one I dealt with through the process) assured me I got a great deal. MSRP for this was right at $40k. $39,9 maybe?
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Re: SF south bay area [gradientecho] by kbedwards
Oct 12, 2007 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: gradientecho (Oct 11, 2007 11:12 am)

I think "invoice" varies greatly depending on who you ask. Edmunds does not include advertising fees in their invoice price, but apparently the dealers do.
 
The only place online that I have seen that takes ad fees into account in the invoice price is www.carsdirect.com
 
The sales manager at the Mazda dealer said she would give me $500 over invoice, but HER invoice price included $1,000 in ad fees. LOL.
 
You really have to be careful about "invoice" in my opinion. It's the new angle that is being pushed to con buyers into thinking they are getting a good deal.
 
Most places say $1,000 for ad fees is ridiculous and outrageous, no more than $250 or $500 at MOST.
 
I guess you could ask the dealer if they will show you the invoice so you can verify what they SAY is the invoice is actually the invoice. I didn't get into that, but maybe I should have.
 
In any case, I am happy with the car - so smooth! And the buying experience was fine too. Probably good have done better, but I was in a bit of a hurry unfortunately.
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Re: SF south bay area [gradientecho] by 4tune81
Oct 12, 2007 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: gradientecho (Oct 11, 2007 11:12 am)

I can't speak for d4ytOn4, (and I'm still curious about the tax number), but I'm pretty sure that the $595 discrepancy between the Edmunds invoice and the amount listed by the OP is the destination charge. He rolled that into what was termed "invoice"...so it really should have said "invoice and destination charge" = $32,636.
 
And WRT invoice charges in general, I have always found that the invoice prices posted on Edmunds and other sites are accurate (but not necessarily what the dealer pays the mfg, due to holdbacks, incentives, volume bonuses, etc.). Occasionally dealers may try to say that "those sites are wrong" or other fabrications, but I've never fallen for that. The only way to be clear is to state that you won't pay more than "x over invoice" or "invoice" or "x under invoice" and show a print out of what YOU believe to be the invoice (plus you'll also have to pay for destination charge, taxes, reg fees, etc). If they insist on an advertising fee, port fee or other things; then as far as I'm concerned that doesn't change what's considered the invoice, but rather changes the amount "x". If it's still acceptable, buy the car, if not walk away and keep shopping.
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Re: SF south bay area [kbedwards] by seloo
Oct 12, 2007 (5:59 pm)
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Replying to: kbedwards (Oct 12, 2007 11:35 am)

I agree, some dealerships are starting to take some liberty with the term invoice price. Always ask to see the invoice (in many states the dealers must show it to you if you ask). If a dealer will not show you the invoice, I would walk away!
 
These extra fees: doc fee, port fee, ad fee, prep fee, etc.. are just scams. Do not pay them!
 
In most cases, buying a new car is a luxury not a necessity.
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Re: SF south bay area [seloo] by kbedwards
Oct 13, 2007 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: seloo (Oct 12, 2007 5:59 pm)

Wait, ad fees are not really in the same category as the other things you mention, because they actually are real charges that the dealer has to pay. Now should it be itemized out when buying a car, or "tacked on" later to help them with negotiating a price with the customer? Heck no. And are they accurate when they tell you how much the ad fees are? Extremely doubtful at least in my case, and I doubt my dealership is the only one that uses that "angle".
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Re: SF south bay area [4tune81] by gradientecho
Oct 15, 2007 (8:27 am)
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Replying to: 4tune81 (Oct 12, 2007 1:16 pm)

4tune81:
 
Ah, yes, I think you're right about that ($595 destination fee included). So it looks like, at least in some parts of the country, people are getting the CX-9 at, or very close to, "invoice". That will be my target.
 
Has anyone seen a CX-9 with the blind-spot warning system yet, or been able to negotiate a purchase with the after-sales installation worked into the deal? I'd hate to buy an '08 GT now, and miss out on something that is supposed to be standard by the end of the year! And does anyone know if it's even possible for the dealer to add this on, or if it has to be done by the factory?
 
Thanks!
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Blind Spot Monitoring System by gradientecho
Oct 15, 2007 (11:50 am)
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Found out today that we probably won't see any BSMS-equipped CX-9's until mid-November at the earliest (in the DC metro area). According to my local dealer, it can't be added on either (although this conflicts with some things I've read on other mazda forums), so if I bought one of the current '08 CX-9s, I'd be out of luck.
 
I test drove a CX-9 the other day, but not long enough to get a good feel for its blind spots. I think I need to get behind the wheel again and really pay attention to this, to see if the BSMS is worth waiting another month for...
 
My current best internet offer for an '08 GT AWD with RSES and GT Assistance and roof racks, is:
 
$37,327 + tax + tags + $595 destination + $100 doc fee
 
I believe this is about $562 over invoice (according to Edmunds numbers). I don't know yet if this includes an "advertising fee", but it seems that I should be able to do better than this. If I can get it down to invoice, I may be willing to forego the BSMS.
 
Not sure how the 2008 Motor Trend SUV of the year award (announced today) will affect demand/pricing, either...
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Anybody using the 1.9% - 36 month financing by 4tune81
Oct 16, 2007 (3:46 pm)
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Has anyone financed their CX-9 through Mazda's current promotional rate -- particularly the short term, ultra-low 1.9%? I haven't spoken to a dealer, but based on the fine print it appears that the car must be bought from dealer stock (i.e., no orders) and purchaser must "take delivery" prior to 10/31. I also don't know what the FICA score required is or the amount of down payment that "may affect qualification."
 
Any direct experience and/or advice?

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