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Re: Tri state Area 2008 GT tot he UK [intrum] by etoileb
Oct 11, 2007 (2:28 am)
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Replying to: intrum (Oct 08, 2007 7:46 am)

Intrum,
 
Its possible but difficult to export to the UK. Here are the things you need to think about.
 
- your friend will need to buy it in his/her name. A dealer can't sell to a foreigner as you need a US driving license and insurance.
 
- you will need a certificate of title to clear US customs but it is theoretically possible just to use a certificate of origin (most shippers will insist on title though) - another reason you will need a US buyer, you will probably have to pay sales tax (NY is very high)
 
- don't let the dealer on that the vehicle is for export. The chain of events will mean that when the car clears US customs the main distributor will be informed of the VIN number and he will harass the dealer. The dealer will probably lose his rebate and be blackmarked. After I exported my first car, the dealer phoned me for weeks as if I had been exporting WMD to the Iraqis.
 
- get all the extra's in person rather than by mail order. I fitted roof rails and cross bars. I had to assemble them in the dealers lot as it took 4 times to find a package that didn't have broken components, imagine doing that long distance!
 
- On the plus side, its a great car that looks even better "in the flesh". I went for Black/Sand with MR.
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Back to Business by seloo
Oct 11, 2007 (8:49 am)
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Please post your deal in terms of $ under the invoice price.
    
07 CX-9 $0 under invoice. At invoice.
    
08 CX-9 $500 under invoice. One dealer claims he will sell at this price, he has posted numerous times against the rules so the host removed his posts. (We need more details from him concerning extra fees and ad-ons)
  
Has anyone used the auto mall?
   
Keep posting those good deals.
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Re: SF south bay area [4tune81] by gradientecho
Oct 11, 2007 (11:12 am)
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Replying to: 4tune81 (Oct 10, 2007 6:38 pm)

Hi Steve (d4yt0n4),
 
I'm also curious about these numbers. In your earlier post, you said you paid "$100 over invoice", but that doesn't seem to be the case based on these figures (unless you are using invoice figures that differ from Edmunds?). Edmunds states that the base invoice for an 08 GT AWD is $32,041. If you add your $2202 RSES package to this, and all of the other fees and taxes you listed, the total would be $37,499. Since you paid $38,094, it seems you actually paid about $595 over invoice.
 
Still not bad, but I'm just trying to get a feel for how close to invoice people are getting, and it's difficult when there aren't many buyers reporting their complete numbers, and even more difficult when the numbers that are posted don't seem to make sense. If you can clarify, that would be great! Thanks for your help. It is appreciated!
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Check With Your Employer's HR for Discounts... by eujung
Oct 11, 2007 (1:38 pm)
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We bought our 2008 FWD CX-9 GT at Sutherlin Mazda in Georgia and had a great experience.
 
If you are looking to buy this or any car, and you work for a "decent" size company (I work for IBM), check with your HR department to see if you company has a discount arrangement with Ford/Mazda.
 
Our CX-9 GT, with Moonroof/Bose, Navigation, Towing Package, Roof Rails and Retractable Cargo Cover was $38,200, walk off the lot (after tax and other fees). I haven't done a lot of the number crunching but I think this was a pretty good price. Does anyone feel like confirming or contrasting my notion of a good price? The tax was 6%.
 
Thanks,
 
Happy CX-9 Owner
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Is this a good price? by psycho6
Oct 12, 2007 (6:07 am)
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I'm totally new both to this forum and to negotiating to buy/lease a car, so any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
I'm in Houston. I'm going to have to order my CX-9 to get exactly what I want, which is a Grand Touring with GT Assistance package, Rear-seat entertainment system, Blind-Spot Monitoring, Auto-dimming mirror, Sirius, all-weather floor mats, and wheel locks. I received a quote for invoice price. Is that good, or should I be looking for under invoice?
 
Thanks very much!
 
psycho6
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Re: Check With Your Employer's HR for Discounts... [eujung] by kbedwards
Oct 12, 2007 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: eujung (Oct 11, 2007 1:38 pm)

Sounds decent eujung, but not sure you really got a discount (of course where you are/demand/availability does change things a bit).
 
I paid $38K out the door for a very similar model (they had to order from another dealer):
 
08 GT FWD CX9
Assist package
Rear Ent. package
Towing pack
Home link/Compass mirror
wheel locks
 
I think I did "ok" but probably could have done better based on what I have been reading here, although salesman (not the one I dealt with through the process) assured me I got a great deal. MSRP for this was right at $40k. $39,9 maybe?
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Re: SF south bay area [gradientecho] by kbedwards
Oct 12, 2007 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: gradientecho (Oct 11, 2007 11:12 am)

I think "invoice" varies greatly depending on who you ask. Edmunds does not include advertising fees in their invoice price, but apparently the dealers do.
 
The only place online that I have seen that takes ad fees into account in the invoice price is www.carsdirect.com
 
The sales manager at the Mazda dealer said she would give me $500 over invoice, but HER invoice price included $1,000 in ad fees. LOL.
 
You really have to be careful about "invoice" in my opinion. It's the new angle that is being pushed to con buyers into thinking they are getting a good deal.
 
Most places say $1,000 for ad fees is ridiculous and outrageous, no more than $250 or $500 at MOST.
 
I guess you could ask the dealer if they will show you the invoice so you can verify what they SAY is the invoice is actually the invoice. I didn't get into that, but maybe I should have.
 
In any case, I am happy with the car - so smooth! And the buying experience was fine too. Probably good have done better, but I was in a bit of a hurry unfortunately.
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Re: SF south bay area [gradientecho] by 4tune81
Oct 12, 2007 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: gradientecho (Oct 11, 2007 11:12 am)

I can't speak for d4ytOn4, (and I'm still curious about the tax number), but I'm pretty sure that the $595 discrepancy between the Edmunds invoice and the amount listed by the OP is the destination charge. He rolled that into what was termed "invoice"...so it really should have said "invoice and destination charge" = $32,636.
 
And WRT invoice charges in general, I have always found that the invoice prices posted on Edmunds and other sites are accurate (but not necessarily what the dealer pays the mfg, due to holdbacks, incentives, volume bonuses, etc.). Occasionally dealers may try to say that "those sites are wrong" or other fabrications, but I've never fallen for that. The only way to be clear is to state that you won't pay more than "x over invoice" or "invoice" or "x under invoice" and show a print out of what YOU believe to be the invoice (plus you'll also have to pay for destination charge, taxes, reg fees, etc). If they insist on an advertising fee, port fee or other things; then as far as I'm concerned that doesn't change what's considered the invoice, but rather changes the amount "x". If it's still acceptable, buy the car, if not walk away and keep shopping.
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Re: SF south bay area [kbedwards] by seloo
Oct 12, 2007 (5:59 pm)
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Replying to: kbedwards (Oct 12, 2007 11:35 am)

I agree, some dealerships are starting to take some liberty with the term invoice price. Always ask to see the invoice (in many states the dealers must show it to you if you ask). If a dealer will not show you the invoice, I would walk away!
 
These extra fees: doc fee, port fee, ad fee, prep fee, etc.. are just scams. Do not pay them!
 
In most cases, buying a new car is a luxury not a necessity.
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Re: SF south bay area [seloo] by kbedwards
Oct 13, 2007 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: seloo (Oct 12, 2007 5:59 pm)

Wait, ad fees are not really in the same category as the other things you mention, because they actually are real charges that the dealer has to pay. Now should it be itemized out when buying a car, or "tacked on" later to help them with negotiating a price with the customer? Heck no. And are they accurate when they tell you how much the ad fees are? Extremely doubtful at least in my case, and I doubt my dealership is the only one that uses that "angle".

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