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Replying to: seloo (Sep 28, 2007 2:27 am) Not trading, just sold my car last week, but I am borrowing one, so not in a hurry. It's not like I am without transp at this point. I have gone to other dealers, but they have not come close to this price. No hidden fees (that popped up earlier in the negotiation in the form of advertising fees  )- that number I wrote includes everything but tax, title and tag which has already been quoted to me from dealer at $575. I just want to know if the towing package changes the way the "normal" engine would behave - if it drives much differently than the one I test drove...i.e. does it provide more torque at the expense of...quickness? Does it add a lot of weight? No idea...but I am 95% sure I will never need to tow anything...don't even have a trailer! |
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Replying to: seloo (Sep 28, 2007 2:27 am) Thanks for this - "Did you account for the $500 difference in the MSRP (they could be padding the price)?" We are now down to a difference of $500, and there it is. He quoted an MSRP that is almost exactly $500 above what Mazda site shows (amateur!)  And people wonder why car dealers get a bad rep? That is exactly why...mickey mouse tricks. Other than that, this guy has been very good to work with. I would still recommend him to others. Thanks again. Edit: Just got a quote in from another dealer for a nearly identical model, for a good price, so now I have a backup if this one doesn't work out.
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Replying to: kbedwards (Sep 28, 2007 8:02 am) Now carefully check the numbers on the contract. (This is where extra fees, especially the doc fee gets added). In addition to the hitch system, the towing package usually gives you a heavy duty transmission and oil cooler. I few extra pounds, but not enough to make a big difference. |
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Replying to: kbedwards (Sep 28, 2007 8:02 am) Web sites sometimes are off on MSRP because manufacturers sometimes change them during a model year, though generally, they're pretty close. Make sure that extra $500 isn't something like "dealer prep" or some other BS like that. But also, don't forget the shipping/delivery charge for the vehicle which is often $500-$750 depending on where you live and where the car is made or arrived. That is actually a normal charge that's not built into the price of the car and you're expected to pay it (because it DOES cost them to get the car delivered to the dealer from wherever it was made). One other thing, though... I'm all for haggling and getting the best price you can, but I ALSO understand as a businessman that the dealer has to make a living. I WANT them to make a living or else they're not going to be around to take care of servicing my vehicle. Some people will haggle over a couple hundred bucks. To me, it really isn't worth it. I mean, over 4 years, $480 is only $10 a month. Is it worth $10 a month to fight with a dealer to squeeze that last little bit? How long is it taking you to deal with it? Could you be doing something better with your time - like spending it with your family? Is it causing you stress? Is NOT spending that time with your family and the extra stress REALLY worth saving $10 a month? Check the MSRP sticker, find where the $500 is, and unless they're actively hiding something, just buy the vehicle and start enjoying it. For $10 a month, save yourself the headache.
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Replying to: warever (Sep 28, 2007 9:41 am) Thanks for the comments - much appreciated. Good point about driving the ACTUAL vehicle, but what is protocol when they are getting the vehicle from another dealer? I guess I just tell them it won't be final until I drive THE car? "Web sites sometimes are off on MSRP because manufacturers sometimes change them during a model year," Even the manufacturers own web site? If that is the case, I liken it to a store not updating their floor price even though they made an internal change on price that rings up different at the cashier. My view is that it's their resp. to keep things updated, esp when it comes to price. Personally, when I make mistakes on price quotes to my clients, I always honor my price when it's lower than it should be - because I made the mistake. "don't forget the shipping/delivery charge for the vehicle which is often $500-$750" Shipping is included in the MSRP on Mazda's site. Also included in all my calculations. LOL - you must be a dealer/salesperson?: "I WANT them to make a living or else they're not going to be around to take care of servicing my vehicle."  Umm, not trying to put anyone out of business, here! They are big boys and girls I think. If they can't do a deal, then they can say that in a direct and mature way, hopefully, instead of trying to wiggle stuff in and sneak it past me. If it gets to a point that their profit margin is too thin on a deal, then they should walk away from ME, and I would completely understand that. I do it to potential clients all the time - they want a price that I can't do, so I tell them I can't do it. Very simple. "Some people will haggle over a couple hundred bucks." If it were a couple hundred bucks, then no, I would not be that concerned - heck I'm not "Concerned" now, just trying to get a fair price. It's $500, and moreover $500 that I know is being used to pad the price. In reality, I could have gotten hard core on them because the 1st salesguy that talked to me said he could put me in a 08 GT for TWO TO THREE hundred over invoice. That quickly changed to $500 over, then the definition/value of "invoice" got challenged (added in $1,000 ad fees!), and now MSRP is even being debated (well, it MAY be, have not brought up that point yet), which is supposedly the one constant. LOL. " How long is it taking you to deal with it? Could you be doing something better with your time - like spending it with your family? Is it causing you stress?" Well, I am emailing back and forth, so it's taken very little time actually - probably 30 minutes of total typing over several days - I respond when I have the chance, and he responds in kind. Is it stressing me out? Not at all...I am not in that much of a rush, I know I can buy a similar vehicle from a number of places, and to date, I have had nothing but pleasant exchanges with my salesperson. I expect that to continue. Thanks again for the idea about driving THE car, very good point.
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Replying to: ecs1 (Sep 24, 2007 7:05 pm) May I ask why you didn't opt for the 20" wheels on the MX-9? Is it a rougher ride? I only drove the Touring, and loved it, but I really like what the GT offers (fog lamps, puddle lamps, blind side safety feature, etc.). You're right, the gas mileage is subpar, but I think they are all in the ball park. BTW, I have some friends who also have Highlanders and they all rave about them! Thanks for your post! P.S. Do you know when the best time is to get a good price on a new vehicle? |
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Replying to: warever (Sep 25, 2007 3:25 pm)
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Replying to: seloo (Sep 27, 2007 4:18 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Sep 27, 2007 5:11 am)
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Replying to: kcgille (Sep 28, 2007 7:40 pm) What was the invoice price of the car? Thanks
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