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Re: 2008 'Crystal White Pearl Mica' [dashbb] by nastacio
Sep 16, 2007 (8:25 pm)
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Replying to: dashbb (Sep 16, 2007 12:30 pm)

For awhile, the option packages were deal breaker for us, since reviews by the major magazines were unanimous about the harsh ride for the 20" in the GT but we wanted Xenon headlights. After a test-drive, we didn't mind the ride and the CX-9 was back in our list.
 
I wouldn't mock the Highlander, it is faster and probably more capable dynamically than a CX-9. "Handling" is subjective on anything 200" long and weighting more than 4000lbs.
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Re: 2008 'Crystal White Pearl Mica' [dashbb] by maverick8
Sep 16, 2007 (10:45 pm)
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Replying to: dashbb (Sep 16, 2007 12:30 pm)

Have any of you really' driven an Outlook / Acadia AWD? preferably the 275 hp model.
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Re: 2008 'Crystal White Pearl Mica' [maverick8] by moisty
Sep 17, 2007 (10:22 am)
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Replying to: maverick8 (Sep 16, 2007 10:45 pm)

I haven't driven the Outlook/Acadia but I plan on doing it on my next days off.
We looked at the Acadia and it was nice inside albeit it was the $42,000 all the bells and whistles, it had some options that we wouldn't choose, but for a $42,000 car I wasn't that impressed.
The fact that the rails that the seats slide back and forward on were not covered up seemed cheap to me, I can just see myself picking french fries and dog hair out of those once a year to keep the seats free.
The Saturn I know is based on the same platform as the Acadia, but like my wife say's "Honey it's a Saturn! Why if it's the same is it cheaper" Can't argue with that.
I'm also gooing to take the new 2008 Highlander out for a test drive too.
I keep you guys posted.
  
I keep coming back to the CX-9 despite of the price, my wife says she prefers the look of the Acadia (I don't, but hey! it's not my car) and she says the Highlander is growing on her, but if she wanted a Toyota she'd get the 4 runner which I don't like at it's got a God awfull interior (IMHO, sorry 4 runner fans) and the gas milage sucks.
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Re: 2008 'Crystal White Pearl Mica' [moisty] by nastacio
Sep 17, 2007 (11:37 am)
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Replying to: moisty (Sep 17, 2007 10:22 am)

The fact that the rails that the seats slide back and forward on were not covered up seemed cheap to me, I can just see myself picking french fries and dog hair out of those once a year to keep the seats free.
 
As a counterpoint (and I test-drove both,) the covers in the CX-9 tracks get in the way of big feet
 
If you don't care for the cheapness, don't even try to step between the tracks on Acadia/Outlooks equipped with the bench seat on second row; there was no flooring panel there.
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Re: 2008 'Crystal White Pearl Mica' [nastacio] by moisty
Sep 17, 2007 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: nastacio (Sep 17, 2007 11:37 am)

Good point, as an afterthought I would opt for the bench seat anyway, so it probably wouldn't be a problem.
 
So which one did you like the best, the cx-9 or the Acadia?
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Re: 2008 'Crystal White Pearl Mica' [moisty] by nastacio
Sep 17, 2007 (1:00 pm)
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Replying to: moisty (Sep 17, 2007 12:22 pm)

I test-drove an Outlook, but the complaints I had would be shared by the Acadia given the same materials and design.
 
The CX-9 treats the driver better, from the steering wheel height (too low in the Outlook,) the separate stalks for windshield wiper control (personal preference,) the instrument illumination (in the GT,) the materials, the smoother transmission, the sound insulation, etc.
 
Other than in the GT trim, I think the Acadia/Outlook look better than the CX-9. Those 20" wheels make all the difference in the CX-9 stance.
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Re: 2008 'Crystal White Pearl Mica' [nastacio] by moisty
Sep 17, 2007 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: nastacio (Sep 17, 2007 1:00 pm)

I agree with you, the CX-9 that I sat in (but did not drive yet) does treat the driver better.
 
I currently drive a 2007 GMC Sierra that has the same dash layout as the Acadia so I am not adverse to the Acadia, I just felt the CX-9 enveloped the driver.
 
I'm sure it will boil down to the driving of each vehicle including the new Highlander also.
 
Yes those 20" wheels do make the CX-9 sexy
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2008 CX9 by mkumar
Sep 18, 2007 (8:58 am)
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I went to the Billion Mazda dealer in Sioux Falls. After I showed him the Fitzmall.com printouts he agreed to sell me for $500 over invoice price. So I finalized 2008 Cx9 Touring model with (i)Moon roof and bose system, (ii) compass with autodimming mirror for $34000 before title and tax. Then we discussed about finacing the car, he offered me 7.5% APR for 48months (he told me my credit score was 686) I came home and checked the mazda website it tells 3.9% APR incentive offer. I applied for it online and was approved for it. Then I called Mazda American credit to confirm the interest rate. They are telling me that the interest rate will be decided by the dealer. If feel like this is full of crap. Can anyone explain me whether I am being cheated. Is $34000 an OK price? 7.5% seems to be on the higher side any suggestions will be welcomed.
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Re: 2008 CX9 [mkumar] by warever
Sep 18, 2007 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: mkumar (Sep 18, 2007 8:58 am)

A dealer can make money in a number of different places.
 
First is on the price of the car. The higher the price of the car relative to the price they paid for it, the more money they make. The lower the price they sell to you, the less money they make.
 
Next is on your trade-in (if you have one). The more they give you for it versus what they can sell it for (usually at auction), the less money they make. So they may give you a good price on your new vehicle and then give you a lousy price on your trade-in and make up the money there. You may never even KNOW that you're being had on the trade-in.
 
Next place is worthless accessories. That "interior protectant" costs them a few bucks but they typically charge $500 or more for it - and generally, the "warranty" requires that you pay to have it reapplied every year. Nothing wrong with a Lo-Jack, but if you can get it installed afterwards for $300, there's no reason to have the dealer "include" it with the car for $1,000. Yes, they'll try to talk you into high profit extras that you probably don't need or want and/or can get cheaper elsewhere.
 
Yet another place for them to make money is on the financing. Few people realize this because they just ASSUME that the dealer is giving them the best financing that you qualify for directly from the bank. The reality is that MANY dealers actually MARK UP the financing!!! You may qualify for 3.9% but the dealer may tell you that you'll get 7.5% - and most people will just assume that the dealer is telling the truth (that you qualify only for 7.5%). Nope, the dealer is making that 3.6% spread - and that can be a LOT of profit for them (at least an extra grand or two).
 
The best way of buying a car is to come in pre-approved for your own financing. Many banks and credit unions offer car loans at reasonable rates (maybe not as good as a factory rate). Go to a few banks (including your own), see what they'll give you, and then go to the dealer knowing that you can get at LEAST what the banks are giving you. If the dealer give you better, great. If not, then you don't need the dealer financing.
 
You can also always go to more than one dealer and see what they'll give you.
 
Incidentally, lest you think that this might affect your credit score (getting multiple inquiries), it shouldn't; most FICO scoring treats multiple inquiries within a short period of time for a single loan as a single inquiry.
 
Cheated? Cheated is when they say that you'll get 5% and then charge you 7.5%. You're just being had. (grin)
 
Seriously, I'd look for another dealer. Maybe you'll pay a bit more for the car (maybe $700 over invoice) but get better financing. Oh, and make them SHOW you the invoice or already KNOW what it is from web sites like KBB and MSN Autos (and Edmunds, of course).
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Re: 2008 'Crystal White Pearl Mica' [nastacio] by crikey
Sep 18, 2007 (2:25 pm)
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Replying to: nastacio (Sep 16, 2007 8:25 pm)

I wouldn't mock the Highlander, it is faster and probably more capable dynamically than a CX-9. "Handling" is subjective on anything 200" long and weighting more than 4000lbs.
 
Going by the Popular Mechanics New Crossover Vehicles: Comparison Test, it is faster than the 2007 CX-9. It may be different against the 3.7L in the 2008 model. And lateral acceleration between the 2 cars were not too far apart. Now, the Highlander returns better fuel economy compared to the CX-9, but the CX-9 seems to provide more utility and ease for a 7-passenger crossover. So, it really boils down to what is most important to the buyer. I do like that the CX-9 has HIDs and 20" rims, and I do prefer its styling over the Highlander. But, if I place more value on the Toyota brand and better fuel economy, the Highlander would be my choice.

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