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Re: "Assessment fees" as part of the invoice price [luvcarzrich] by nastacio
Aug 31, 2007 (4:54 pm)
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Replying to: luvcarzrich (Aug 31, 2007 3:02 pm)

I called the Ford rep for the plan and he pointed at least two problems with this dealer's approach: (1) they did not present the S-Plan price breakdown, instead listing the 'total' invoice price for the car and (2) claiming that the *factory* is including an "assessment fee" on the cars invoice.
 
This is sounding like a fee included by the network of distributors for our area, which pretty much acts as an intermediary between the factory and the dealer. Much like the maligned Toyota Southeast admin fee of ~$700.
 
Just to be sure, I asked two other local dealers for an out-of-the-door quote before I walk on these guys. It has been two days and these other dealers seem to be more interested in pushing whatever 07' they have in the lot. I understand no one wants to provide quotes and instead having the customer come to the lot for the royal pressure treatment, but I am not sure people understand the new reality of Internet shopping.
 
On 2005, I bought a Honda through their Internet department and it was a dream-experience, with an out-of-the-door quote over e-mail in a few hours, a scheduled appointment to order the vehicle, and a schedule delivery date.
 
I can't get any of this from any of the three Mazda dealers in the Raleigh NC area.
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Re: "Assessment fees" as part of the invoice price [nastacio] by cmuniz
Sep 01, 2007 (6:13 am)
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Replying to: nastacio (Aug 31, 2007 10:35 am)

I am not sure how the Ford "S" plan for Mazda compares to their "A" plan for Fords, but I got my "A" plan pin thru the internet and made a copy of the conditions of sale that were listed when I went to the dealer. There are 2 things that stick out about the process. First is that the dealer must show you an invoice with the "A"plan price clearly shown. Secondly, they are NOT allowed to charge any additional fees such as doc fees, inventory fees, etc, They tried to charge me doc fees and said they do that on all cars they sell. I gave them a copy of the sheet I printed with the Ford rules for "A" plan purchases and they took the doc fees off the sales contract.
 
I would double check your sources. With new and/or popular models dealers are not often willing to sell at "discount" prices so thet tack on all kinds of conditions or make low ball offers on your trade-ins.
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Dealer Ad for 2007 Mazda models by dashbb
Sep 01, 2007 (4:41 pm)
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S-Plans blow away regular dealer & customer incentives, however, for the mere mortals, here's a newer dealer ad:
 
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Re: "Assessment fees" as part of the invoice price [cmuniz] by nastacio
Sep 01, 2007 (7:26 pm)
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Replying to: cmuniz (Sep 01, 2007 6:13 am)

The Mazda S-Plan allows the *dealer* to charge reasonable fees, but they did not list this one "assessment fee" outside the "S-plan" item in the order.
 
The plan states "Mazda dealerships may charge reasonable and customary document preparation and/or administrative service fees for S-Plan sales." In other words, either the assessment fee is charged by the factory as part of the invoice, or the dealer would have to list it as separate charge in the pre-order form. I'll wait until the car arrives to check the invoice.
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Re: "Assessment fees" as part of the invoice price [nastacio] by twinpower
Sep 02, 2007 (9:42 am)
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Replying to: nastacio (Sep 01, 2007 7:26 pm)

nastacio,
 
 I'm looking to buy a 2008 CX-9 (or a Buick Enclave) myself in the very near future. I have the S-Plan and am in the Raleigh area too - very interested in what you find out or experience at the local dealers.
 
There are things I like better about the CX-9 over the Enclave and vice-versa... it may come down to finding one or the other equipped the way I want and a dealer I can work with.
  
Mike
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One more ad...same pricing, nothing new by dashbb
Sep 02, 2007 (12:56 pm)
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Re: "Assessment fees" as part of the invoice price [twinpower] by nastacio
Sep 03, 2007 (9:41 am)
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Replying to: twinpower (Sep 02, 2007 9:42 am)

My experience with all local dealers from both brands is that none have a dedicated Internet department. I was always called back by a regular salesperson that would use high-pressure tactics to bring me on site to try and sell me whatever was sitting on the lot.
 
They will refuse staunchly to give you a detailed quote for an out-of-the-door price. Actually, none of them has done it so far other than agreeing to honor S-plan (Mazda) and suppliers price (GM) . The trick is on the dealer's fees, where they will get pen-happy, which is why I wouldn't walk in without the quote.
 
In the end, I decided to place a pre-order to get "in line" for a 2008 CX-9, in order to buy myself sometime while trying to get quotes from all dealers.
 
I think you will not have this problem a few months from now, when the 2008 CX-9's and the Enclave will have become old news.
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2008 'Crystal White Pearl Mica' by sweetjoe
Sep 03, 2007 (7:04 pm)
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Does anyone know if 2008 White color is the same as the White on 2007 model? I haven't seen 2008 model yet but the description on my local dealer webpage indicates 2008 color as 'Crystal White Pearl Mica' versus just 'Crystal White' for 2007. My wife prefers a pearl like creamy color over just plain white.

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