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Follow Up From REgards by regards
Aug 30, 2007 (10:09 pm)
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In reply to our new CX-9 colleagues:
 
Warever: As to "model" vs. "trim": I was passing on what was on the first line of the manufacturer's sticker on the car we bought, which read: "Model: 2008 CX-9 Grand Touring All Wheel Drive". Don't know where your "trim" comes from (but I know where I get mine; see following paragraph).
 
Concur; it would've been great if a "fit like a glove" 2007 at a lower sticker/bigger discount had been on the lot, but it wasn't. So I had two options: compromise to save a few shekels, or pay a little more for exactly the car my wife wanted. I've learned a thing or two having been happily married for 24 years, and the choice there is a "no brainer".
 
Warever/Nastacio: We are aware of the Ford/Mazda ownership. Note that I (carefully) used the term "U.S. badged." My wife's old car was an Odyssey built in Ohio, and I drive a Toyota Tundra built in Indiana, both of which we love(d). We believe the Japanese badged companies still do a better job overall in their assembly process, whether in the U.S. or Japan, than the U.S. badged cars, and overall have a higher level of commitment to quality yet to be equaled by the U.S. badged vehicles. But that is a discussion for another forum...
 
Smartgroup: We've yet to discover all the goodies on our new car, but aren't aware of a Blind Spot Monitoring System, other than the time-tested turning of the head (we're not yet old enough to have done away w/ it), or a Pep Boys fish eye lens stuck to the side mirrors. If I discover a BSMS while going through the owners manual, I'll let you know.
 
As to the RSES, you probably know the CX-9 comes with either the sunroof OR the DVD RSES. We figured it'd be easier to aftermarket install the latter rather than the former.
 
REgards
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"Assessment fees" as part of the invoice price by nastacio
Aug 31, 2007 (9:35 am)
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I have pre-ordered am 08' CX-9 in our local dealer using the S-Plan (Ford Suppliers Plan.) Now the dealer wants to charge a $435 "assessment fee" on top of the S-Plan, which is already on top of $397 in doc fees and $38 for an "electronic filing fee".
 
I am getting a good price anyway (near invoice) for an 08 model, but what bothered me is that the dealer claimed that the "assessment fee" was part of the invoice, as in, charged by the factory. They insist very strongly in this point because they did not list the charge in the original estimate and now want to include it in the "S-Plan" item in the pre-order.
 
I can always walk from the deal and buy it somewhere else, but can anyone confirm?
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Re: Follow Up From REgards [regards] by nastacio
Aug 31, 2007 (9:39 am)
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Replying to: regards (Aug 30, 2007 10:09 pm)

If I discover a BSMS while going through the owners manual, I'll let you know.
 
Just read the MSRP sheet, BSMS is a $200 option.
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Re: "Assessment fees" as part of the invoice price [nastacio] by luvcarzrich
Aug 31, 2007 (2:02 pm)
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Replying to: nastacio (Aug 31, 2007 9:35 am)

I did exactly what you are saying - I ordered an '08 from Ramsey Mazda using S-plan. Got invoice + doc fees + etching. No assessment. They NEED to show you the invoice and show you the Splan price at the bottom. They can get in major trouble if the screw around with you. There are some fees on the invoice but they should show you the invoice you will see something in the lower left like SPLAN0036005 <--- where 36005 is invoice $. Its that plus doc, etch, etc. Maybe tops $700?
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Re: "Assessment fees" as part of the invoice price [luvcarzrich] by nastacio
Aug 31, 2007 (3:54 pm)
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Replying to: luvcarzrich (Aug 31, 2007 2:02 pm)

I called the Ford rep for the plan and he pointed at least two problems with this dealer's approach: (1) they did not present the S-Plan price breakdown, instead listing the 'total' invoice price for the car and (2) claiming that the *factory* is including an "assessment fee" on the cars invoice.
 
This is sounding like a fee included by the network of distributors for our area, which pretty much acts as an intermediary between the factory and the dealer. Much like the maligned Toyota Southeast admin fee of ~$700.
 
Just to be sure, I asked two other local dealers for an out-of-the-door quote before I walk on these guys. It has been two days and these other dealers seem to be more interested in pushing whatever 07' they have in the lot. I understand no one wants to provide quotes and instead having the customer come to the lot for the royal pressure treatment, but I am not sure people understand the new reality of Internet shopping.
 
On 2005, I bought a Honda through their Internet department and it was a dream-experience, with an out-of-the-door quote over e-mail in a few hours, a scheduled appointment to order the vehicle, and a schedule delivery date.
 
I can't get any of this from any of the three Mazda dealers in the Raleigh NC area.
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Re: "Assessment fees" as part of the invoice price [nastacio] by cmuniz
Sep 01, 2007 (5:13 am)
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Replying to: nastacio (Aug 31, 2007 9:35 am)

I am not sure how the Ford "S" plan for Mazda compares to their "A" plan for Fords, but I got my "A" plan pin thru the internet and made a copy of the conditions of sale that were listed when I went to the dealer. There are 2 things that stick out about the process. First is that the dealer must show you an invoice with the "A"plan price clearly shown. Secondly, they are NOT allowed to charge any additional fees such as doc fees, inventory fees, etc, They tried to charge me doc fees and said they do that on all cars they sell. I gave them a copy of the sheet I printed with the Ford rules for "A" plan purchases and they took the doc fees off the sales contract.
 
I would double check your sources. With new and/or popular models dealers are not often willing to sell at "discount" prices so thet tack on all kinds of conditions or make low ball offers on your trade-ins.
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Dealer Ad for 2007 Mazda models by dashbb
Sep 01, 2007 (3:41 pm)
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S-Plans blow away regular dealer & customer incentives, however, for the mere mortals, here's a newer dealer ad:
 
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Re: "Assessment fees" as part of the invoice price [cmuniz] by nastacio
Sep 01, 2007 (6:26 pm)
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Replying to: cmuniz (Sep 01, 2007 5:13 am)

The Mazda S-Plan allows the *dealer* to charge reasonable fees, but they did not list this one "assessment fee" outside the "S-plan" item in the order.
 
The plan states "Mazda dealerships may charge reasonable and customary document preparation and/or administrative service fees for S-Plan sales." In other words, either the assessment fee is charged by the factory as part of the invoice, or the dealer would have to list it as separate charge in the pre-order form. I'll wait until the car arrives to check the invoice.
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Re: "Assessment fees" as part of the invoice price [nastacio] by twinpower
Sep 02, 2007 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: nastacio (Sep 01, 2007 6:26 pm)

nastacio,
 
 I'm looking to buy a 2008 CX-9 (or a Buick Enclave) myself in the very near future. I have the S-Plan and am in the Raleigh area too - very interested in what you find out or experience at the local dealers.
 
There are things I like better about the CX-9 over the Enclave and vice-versa... it may come down to finding one or the other equipped the way I want and a dealer I can work with.
  
Mike

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